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Out of the pits

Po box 7238
Albany, NY 12136

User Reviews (2)

  • 1. Not a Pit Bull Advocacy Group

    by: Leda18

    We wanted to adopt ANOTHER (2nd one) Pit, are obviously familiar with the breed, love the breed, and wanted to give one of the many in shelters a forever home. We found out about Out of the Pits online, and read their beautiful website. So many Pits don't get homes. We thought, since we already had experience and were in the right situation we could give one a home. They recommended to us we look into finding a Retriever, because Pits have short fuses, can attack at any moment, can't live peacefully in a typical neighborhood, can't be out in normal everyday situations in the real world, and so on. We could not believe the strange email correspondence we had with this place. This does not seem like a Pit Bull advocacy group to me AT ALL. How can Pits pass temperament tests or earn a CGC if they have such short fuses and can't handle everyday situations? They wouldn't be able to, because that is EXACTLY what those tests go over. A dog has to appropriately deal with those situations, or they don't pass those tests. The person in particular we had correspondence with suggested a dog for us to potentially adopt, that based on the application we filled out, should have been obvious would not work for us (which was when the strange correspondence began). She even admitted in the correspondence she must have missed some of what we were looking for in a dog. It seemed like our application hadn't even been read. We felt like we were being talked down to. Apparently our dog is a fluke among pits, our certified pet trainer, vet, other Pit owners, our college professors teaching about genetics and animal domestication, and Pit Bull advocacy websites and other groups have no idea what they are talking about. The emails we received seemed to have one contradiction after another in them. She gave us a link to a website, and a web page for us to look at about Pits, that said the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what the she was trying to say to us. And, come on, we have a Pit and have been around dogs our whole lives, do you honestly think we hadn't already done research, before we even adopted our first dog?! What that website said was terriers have a higher amount of dogs, than many other dog breeds, that TEND to have short fuses, but most Pits tend to fall in the middle between short and long fuses, and you can find ones that fall on all sides of the spectrum. Well, that would explain how they pass those tests. Clearly, our Pit, has a long fuse, and , clearly, according to the website they gave us a link to, Badrap.org, it is normal to find pits that don't have short fuses. I am totally shocked that college-educated, professional job holding, middle class home owners with State Farm Insurance, who already have a Pit and are familiar with the breed, have a certified pet trainer, a regular vet we have had for years, half an acre of land, advocates of the breed who have spent their lives around dogs and are total dog people, who only use positive reinforcement etc. etc. etc. is apparently not what they are looking for while placing their dogs? We bought a home for our dog! We were sick of renting and dealing with the problems that can arise with landlords and Pit owners, that we saved up enough money in SIX months to get approved for a 200k home! We made sure our insurance covered our dog! We have a security system so a fire, if it should happen, will promptly be responded to so that our dog is safe. We also have the security system so our dog doesn't get stolen! If we did not have our dog, we would not own a home. We have sacrificed and done so much for our dog it is unbelievable when we sit down and think about it! We even drive out of town to buy special all natural dog food made in America for our dog! We were looking for THAT dog. I think dog owners know what I am talking about, the one, the dog that you will become best friends with and stay together with till the end. We were looking for THAT dog for us and our furr-kid. Anyway, I think anyone who may stumble upon this review gets the gist of how much we consider dogs to be apart of the family. Our only explanation to our experience with them was that 1. they are an anti-Pit organization masquerading as a Pit rescue and advocacy group, or 2. We simply lived too far away and someone was too lazy and didn't want to make the effort and save a dog. After what I had been told by this place, there is no way I could ever advocate a breed that cannot function in everyday society. If a breed of dog can't live in a typical neighborhood or run into everyday situations, such as random dogs coming up to them off leash, they should not be allowed in society, and, thus, I must agree with B.S.L. Is this really what they are saying while educating the public? Who could possibly advocate such dog breeds? What do they say, "Kids, don't make any sudden movements as you might be attacked at any moment" or "They can't handle everyday situations, so they can't live in a typical neighborhood, and since they can't live in a typical neighborhood, there is no way they can live with a typical family or go out in public, but yeah, support and advocate these dogs anyway." I love my Pit, and I think the message this place seems to be sending is terrible (apart from their website, which is beautiful). We ended up working with a different shelter who couldn't believe what we were told by this place. And, once again, another resource that has the COMPLETE OPPOSITE opinion about these dogs, and also has direct contact with the breed on a daily basis. As another reviewer said, they do not put same sex dogs together, which should be out OUT OUT there in the open right on a main page of their website and adoption application. You will also find that many dog behaviorists, shelters, trainers, owners have split opinions on same sex dogs in a household. There is no absolute. Sure, dogs change with age, ALL animals change with age. It is called life. Even fish can get more aggressive with age. It is my belief that if a dog is perfectly matched in the FIRST PLACE, and the owners are mentally fit to own a dog, terrible situations won't happen or can at least be resolved appropriately. We got the impression, especially after working with another shelter, that they don't particularly care about the dogs, maybe that is not true, but I have to say, they really come off that way. Not only were we wanting to adopt another dog, but then we were planning on also fostering, which it seemed like they so desperately needed. Perhaps, one of the reasons why these dogs have such hard times finding good homes is because of organizations like this. I must apologize to the people working and volunteering for this organization who may not be apart of this. Perhaps, the woman we spoke to did not speak the opinions of the whole organization. Just an all around bad experience that, I must say, I was downright appalled by. We will find the right dog someday, PIt or not. Please, to the woman we spoke with, actually read the applications, and take (or just sit in on) a college level course with a focus on genetics and animal domestication (dogs are generally a main focus in this area of study). I don't mean for this to come off as condescending, but...hey...after the strange, slighty rude (for no reason) correspondence we had with this place...

    Pros

    Provides Pits with Foster Homes

    Cons

    Does not advocate the breed

  • 2. Not Happy

    by: BrysGirl3306

    I don't agree with alot of the things that they present. They won't adopt to families with children under 5. That says to me that pits can't be trusted around young children. They don't adopt siblings together or same sex together. That makes no sense to me. They leave aggressive pits with families. If someone calls and says I have a pit that I need a home for and they go and check it out, if that pit isn't human friendly they leave it. I think that is pretty stupid. What if that family has kids? I think they should take the pit and put it through therapy and if that doesn't help, euthanize. That's the safest thing for the dog and for the people. I just think that they are agreeing with what the media says about pits instead of doing what they are there to do.

    Pros

    rescue pits

    Cons

    they don't represent what they say