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So You Want to Be a Vet? Here’s What it Takes

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May 10, 2011 / (7) comments

My mom got up at 3 a.m. to watch the Royal Wedding; she said all her teacher buddies were doing it. A scant handful of my Facebook friends were up, status updates proclaiming their excitement. In my world, sleep takes precedence over the "wedding of the century." However, I couldn’t ignore the spectacle. I DVR’d the Royal Wedding.
 

I suspect the whole fairy tale princess aspect of the event enthralled more than a few dewy eyed girls. (My boys had zero interest, I’m afraid.) These fresh faced little girls, dreaming of being swept up out of the crowd by Prince Harry, made me think of the similar looks I get from some little girls at work.

Their parents usually slip into the conversation the fact that their little princess wants to be a vet when she grows up. I remember my mom saying that to my vet when I was a little girl. She told me to get good grades and work for a vet. It’s one of the few memories that has stuck with me.

Well, I followed her advice exactly. I started working for my mom when I was 15, as a lowly kennel worker. I learned the field from the bottom up, as a kennel worker, receptionist, and technician. My grades were good enough to get me into vet school, and here I am.

Over the years I’ve become a bit of a cynic about the sparkly eyed little girl vet wannabes. Aside from the obvious (they think it’s all about puppies and kitties and hearts and flowers), they also often seem to lack the incentive to do the dirty work involved with this field. They just want to come in and "observe," not "work."

I think the experience I got working for the vet clinic all those years ago was priceless. I got to see the cool stuff: the surgeries, the puppies and kittens, the doctors (who all taught me a lot).

I also learned about the not-so-cool stuff:

  • Kennel, tech and receptionist work — which is hard (appreciate what your staff does)
  • Dogs and cats get sick on the holidays and weekends — suck it up and do the work; they need you
  • You see a lot of pus, maggots, poop, pee, blood and gore — and you can’t get sick, you have to deal with it
  • People are mean — and yet you have to suck it up and be nice to them anyways


My first day on the job I was bitten, had to clean a TOILET and MOP a floor for the first time! I was horrified.

"I want to be a VET, not a JANITOR!" I yelled at my mom. "Tough," my mom replied. "You have to learn to work. Go back and do what they tell you to do, and do it well." Her final words of wisdom: "You have to start somewhere; pay your dues."

As a 15-year-old know-it-all I was completely mortified, but I did what she said. I now have an excellent work ethic, if I do say so myself.

Still interested in my profession?

Here’s my advice on what you need to become a vet:

  1. A cast-iron stomach (if you are squeamish, this is not the job for you).
  2. An interest in science (as an aside: you don’t have to be good at math to be a vet, in case that is a concern for you; it was for me).
  3. A strong work ethic (and not just for school; try to get a job working for a vet clinic and learn vet med from the bottom up, even though it’s hard work).
  4. You have to at least like animals. Notice I didn’t say love. Vet school interviewers hate when you say you want to be a vet because you love animals. As a vet, you have to do things to the animals that are not nice. No animal likes to get a shot, be restrained, poked and prodded, etc. Love them too much and you might not be able to stomach the less warm and fuzzy aspects of the job (another aside: it’s okay to be allergic to animals and be a vet, if you are so inclined. There are a lot of us out there; we take shots).
  5. You have to at least like people, even if it’s just a little. They pay your salary. If you have no people skills, you will have a very difficult time being a practicing veterinarian. God knows there are plenty of vets out there with the bedside manner of a turnip, but they’re usually surgeons, ER vets, behaviorists, zoo/wildlife vets, or have a very small client base. Of course, I’m mostly joking; there are turnips and superstars in every discipline of vet med (please don’t yell at me). Seriously though, I’ve known vets who are absolutely brilliant, but clients hated them because they weren’t nice. And then there were the vets who were complete morons who had legions of clients that swore they were the best vet on the planet. It’s not fair, but that’s the way it is.


So I think that covers the high points. I didn’t really talk about school grades; that’s pretty much the common denominator. Vet schools aren’t lacking for applicants with good grades and test scores. My goal was to hit the intangible aspects required for the vet skill set. (And maybe weed out some of the princesses — or princes — who show up and quit after the first time they are asked to pick up some dog poop).

 

 

Dr. Vivian Cardoso-Carroll

 

 

Pic of the day: Not impressed by Crystal Agozzino

 

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COMMENTS (7)
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Well Said
by TheOldBroad on 05/10/2011 07:11am

Well said, Dr. Cardoso-Carroll!

I once had a conversation with a veterinary internist and said something to the effect of, "It must be wonderful to be able to work with animals." He kind of chuckled and replied that his work was 10% animals and 90% people.

There's no doubt that's true. Doctors have to deal with so much that doesn't directly involve their best animal medicine such as finding a treatment plan that an owner can/will comply, not to mention the long irregular hours. Of course, there are abscesses, blocked urethras, dentals and infections. Not very glamorous work sometimes.

I made a comment to my regular vet that someday I'd like to have a low-stress job that would pay the bills, but that I could go home and night without taking my work home with me. He smiled and said, "Maybe like a receptionist at a vet clinic?"

Egads, no! I cannot imagine the stress of the people on the front lines at a vet clinic! They are always kind, but have to deal with the public's frustrations, clients' verbal abuse when a bill is in question or the grief of someone who has lost a pet. They have to deal with people who don't restrain their critters in the waiting room (or sometimes run out the door because the owner doesn't have them in a carrier or on leash. Those are just the situations that come to mind.

You are so right. The general public usually doesn't have a clue that being a veterinarian isn't all heart and flowers and puppies and kittens.

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Love the pic of the day!
by JurisGal on 05/10/2011 07:12am

Good summary. Much of it applies to everyday life for non-vets as well.

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couldn't agree more!
by theflhowes on 05/10/2011 10:55am

My daughter - 13 this year- has aspired to be a Vet for as long as I can remember. She is lucky enough that we have a farm so has seen the good, the bad and the ugly. We have birthed animals (ONLY PLANNED! All my dogs/cats are s/n), stitched them up on occasion and also euthanized when needed. We have raised meat birds and considering a steer next year. She is also doing a zookeeper internship at out local teaching zoo this summer. Needless to say none of our kids have been shielded from hard work or where food comes from and what proper care of animals consists of. Last year when she was being forgetful and not feeding or watering her show rabbits (7) she was not allowed to eat or drink anything for a week until her rabbits were fed and watered first during that week. She has not forgotten since. ( I check ALL animals when I am doing my chores so they never went without food or water, it just wasn't her doing it like she was supposed to be. ) I don't know if she will continue to want being a vet when she gets into college, so many things can change in the next 5 years. She is also in all gifted classes in school but still struggles with math. I try to encourage to make sure she knows it - I am a nurse by trade - and you need your math skills LOL!

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by Equine DVM on 05/10/2011 11:12am

What you said, Dr. Cardoso-Carroll, and:

6. You must figure out how to pay for veterinary school. Median loan for veterinary grads is now around $130K and rising rapidly, easily outpacing salaries. In concrete terms: $130K loan at 5% interest = $857.94/month for 20 years. Sobering.

Worse, one-third of 2010 graduates had debt >$150K. Again, $200K loan at 5% interest = $1319.91/month for 20 years. That's larger than my mortgage. No sane person loves being a veterinarian that much.

by Dr. Vivian Carroll on 05/10/2011 01:20pm

Wow...I was going to go into a discussion about how the students should do what I did and borrow the minimum and live within their means (I knew a lot of students who borrowed the max and spent every penny, often on frivolous stuff) but I looked at the stats: http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/studentprograms/subpages/admission_info/debt.html and my debt was right about average for 1998. I was pretty thrilled to get my loans paid off in 10 years (that $500/month payment sucked). I can't imagine paying for 20 years....

by Equine DVM on 05/10/2011 01:36pm

I met two young veterinarians at AAEP who both owe more than $200K from veterinary school alone and plan to go on the 30-year plan. Each has close to $300K in debt, including undergrad. One was planning to marry a physician, an anesthesiology resident. She'll be just fine and probably will cut down to part-time as soon as she starts having kids. The other... well, I'm guessing she'll be working for a pharma company within 2-3 years, unless one of her rich older relatives dies soon. I may sound cynical, but I see it all the time.

Practice doesn't pay, once you factor in the debt. I'd have been better-off financially if I'd avoided veterinary school and continued to work with nothing but my BA and my brain. My salary would have been about the same, but that monthly loan payment could have gone straight into retirement savings.

Like you, I graduated with average debt for my year and will be paid up shortly, after only 15 years.

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No Longer A Viable Option
by Dr Joe Knecht on 05/12/2011 04:46pm

Veterinary medicine as it is today is really not a viable career to get into based on the debt problem and that veterinary education is essentially broken.

For about 40 years the schools have really failed to produce any innovations in education. Schools still believe mostly that the generalist model of being able to treat "all creatures great and small" and that the veterinary education prepares one to work in all fields from food safety to wildlife medicine and ecosystm health. Yet the NAVMEC educational commission still considers multi-species expertise as a core competency to be preserved. The problem is that does not work anymore and everybody knows it but refuses to admit it. So all graduates get an expensive generalist education that really does not prepare them for the real world where your knowledge has to be in depth in order to be productive.I have seen no jobs for the practitioners of "One Medicine" Academia really has failed to show any responsibility in their operation of the schools. They just seem to want more money from the states, tuition raises and increased class sizes so they can build more multi-million dollar facilities for themselves instead of making the tough choices. Its a cynical perspective but I think when we see a lot of new graduates without a job and 200K in debt then what will they say they were doing while Rome burned. In the next few years, our profession and industry will likely undergo a contraction in its size and scope due to fragmentation and low profitability but there will likely be many veterinarians who will be having to seek opportunities outside of the field while still paying for that degree for the rest of their lives.

Joe

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