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Things I learned in London - and at the Waltham Centre for Pet Nutrition

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February 01, 2011 / (25) comments


I'd love nothing better than to head back in time to last week when I was still in London kicking up my heels in Hyde Park, doing the museum thing all day long and punctuating my wanderings with world-class food along the way. Sigh. At least I have the memories.

 

Now that I'm back stateside, it's time to come clean as I unveil the findings of my two day expedition to the dead center of England and beyond … into the not-always-so-secretive world of conglomerate pet food.

I'd not been to the U.K. for twenty years, so let me first say that I was excited to have been invited on an all expenses paid trip to one of the most interesting cities in the world. (Full disclosure: The trip was paid for by the Mars company.)

The first thing I learned?

London is glorious in the winter, too

Everyone who said I'd suffer in the damp and cold was wrong. It was gloriously drizzly weather. That is, I thought so up until the last day, when I finally succumbed to the flu I'd been keeping at bay for the previous two weeks. Oh well, can't have it all. Anyway, it didn't slow me down … and we weren't staying in London anyway.

Turns out London was the lure (a nice one, too), but the real destination was three hours away in the dead center of England. Take a guess at a spot in the middle of the fattest part of the country and you'd be pretty close to where we ended up: in the middle of nowhere, which is where you’ll find the Waltham Centre for Pet Nutrition.

There I found a community of 150 dogs and 300 cats in a rabbit warren of dog and cat playgrounds peopled with employees that are dedicated to play times and training and pettings and feedings. Veterinarians are on-site. Dogs and cats are not subject to any invasive testing. Mostly, they just hang out and get treated to the best of everything. Reincarnation would be nice if I could come back as a dog or cat at the Waltham Centre. OK, so maybe the food isn't always the best money can buy, but with all the other amenities … I think I'm willing to let that one slide.

It was at the Waltham Centre that I and nine other veterinarians and pet media people had been called to, to partake in a sneak peek of the Centre’s newest research results: dental plaque-fighting innovation through shape and texture; foods that dogs are more likely to chew for a longer time and foods that are less likely to be swallowed whole.

In case you want to know whether I was "sold" on their spiel, rest assured that I was. After all, other products in the marketplace have proven they can reduce tartar by the same means. And after being treated to a tour of their research facility where this product was tested and the reach methods employed, I can honestly say I'm convinced that this new stuff does cut down on plaque. How much? Hard to say since it'll be different for every dog, but I can tell you this: it still won't come close to what tooth brushing can achieve.

In no particular order, here are some of the more useful things I learned last week:

Pet Nutrition: Art or Science?

Here's a big picture item for you: I learned that in nutrition circles, both academic and industrial, it's now become acceptable to pose this rhetorical question. I deduced as much based on the eponymous title of Waltham's most recent international symposium on pet nutrition (held in Cambridge last summer).

Though strict reliance on science has historically been the pet food industry's strongest selling point, the admission that there is "artistry" in the direction, interpretation and application of said science plays a vital role in pet nutrition, and is, to my read, a very big step forward for the pet food industry as a whole.

After all, it's easy to slavishly mind/mine the stats in one's favor while getting hyperbolic on the influence of science. While copping to the fuzziness of it all might make for a softer landing after taking a dive off the "based on science" high horse, it reflects a maturing, mellowing stance on the reality of how nutrition is actually delivered to pets.

Portion control, especially in the weeks immediately after neutering, may be critical in keeping pets at a normal weight for life

Speaking more to the micro level of pet nutrition, it's becoming increasingly clear that obesity prevention has got to be addressed more effectively than it has been thus far. Lip service is all well and good, but when results are not forthcoming it starts to smack of ye olde sales job. Which is why more practical research into how obesity can be best prevented is a very welcome thing.

In particular, my fellows and I learned that Waltham's research into portion control immediately following sterilization (female cats have been most closely studied) is teaching us the importance of life cycle-specific feeding regimens. Feeding a restricted-portion diet during this sensitive period may significantly improve a pet's chances of skirting obesity.

Which means veterinarians have an even greater responsibility to address feeding, nutrition, and weight gain at the time of spay or neuter.

We still know so little about what pets really need, food-wise, but an understanding of energy requirements (caloric requirements) in pets is particularly elusive, and highly frustrating to veterinarians

This point has always been a big deal for me. It's to do with the age-old question: how much do I feed?

While pet food companies address the issue with back-of-the-bag instructions based on theoretical ranges, veterinarians typically advise owners to take a highly individualized approach to feeding, one which almost invariably veers sharply away from what the bag of pet food states — as in, much less food than the bag instructs.

After sitting in a room with nutritionists and pet food executives, I learned that this disparity is highly frustrating for veterinarians; me, mostly. It drives me crazy to hear that they honestly believe the average 150-pound mastiff eats proportionally more than the average 10-pound papillon. As if a dog is a dog … is a dog … is a dog.

It's just one of those zones where theory and practice diverge — likely because we have such a limited understanding of energy requirements. It’s nice to know, however, that the back-of-the-bag recommendations come from an earnest adherence to science rather than from a desire to see more product consumed.

The canned vs. kibbled cat food debate rages on!

This Waltham finding from a paper currently undergoing the peer review process is the most interesting recent entry in the wet vs. dry debate: Among cats fed identical formulas of moistened or non-moistened food, those eating the moistened version were more active and gained less weight per calorie ingested.

Digest that.

The assumption is that wet food led to increased activity, which is presumably what leads to a weight disparity in cats fed these dueling feeding formats.

Why?

No idea.

Ingredient quality still gets short shrift in the industrial nutrition setting

At the very end of the two-day session on pet nutrition at the Waltham Centre I asked my final question: "How would you describe the difference in quality between all the different brands Waltham's science supports?"

When the answer was a resounding, "There is none! The same science underlies all of our brands," I couldn't help but go one further: "Then how do you defend the price disparity between them?"

The answer came down to the price of ingredients and consumer perception — the latter of which was completely independent of the Mars/Waltham POV, one which pointedly avoids assigning qualitative differences to foods based on ingredient choices.

In case you're wondering, this approach to ingredients has to do with a strict adherence to the science I criticized above — as in, "science tells us what animals need and we supply it." I call this philosophy "nutrient-feeding," which is somewhat distinct from "food-feeding," which is ideally what we all aspire to, right? I do, anyway.

***

To recap, I learned aplenty. There's food safety stuff and dental stuff and fatty acid supplementation stuff and lots of abstracts I could rattle off, but these were the biggest points I took home. The rest, you can be sure, will be percolating through this blog for days, weeks, months and years to come … so stay tuned.

 

 Me in Hyde Park, London

 

 

Dr. Patty Khuly

 

 

Pic of the day: London dog by xiaming

 

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COMMENTS (25)
1
Perception?
by TheOldBroad on 02/01/2011 04:00am

"The answer came down to the price of ingredients and consumer perception"

Egads! Customer perception has to do with pricing?

I never thought about it that way, but I guess with many people (certainly not the readers of this blog!) think that the more expensive a pet food is, the better nutrition their pet is getting.

*Sigh*

2
Welcome Home
by kay morris on 02/01/2011 05:52am

Doctor Khuly, Great you enjoyed your Trip. Nutrition is very important to us, but for some it comes down to money.

3
by beachpoet on 02/01/2011 06:11am

Very interesting; especially that they were so candid about the "truth" in the industry. I used to teach small animal nutrition and have been aware of these realities for years.

About "wet food" in cats, which I always recommend; a year ago a client/friend came to me asking what she could do to take weight off her obese cat. I told her to put the cat on a low carb (as little grain as possible in the formula) canned diet - no dry food whatsoever. Over the next year, the cat gradually shed the pounds to the point that the owner became alarmed that maybe her cat was ill! She insisted on a total work up, which revealed a perfectly healthy 9 lb cat. Why did it work? My personal theory is the low carb/low (or no) grain aspect of the diet. I just don't think cats metabolize grains very well and the result is fat storage. I can't prove it, but I'll go with what i know works.

Thanks for sharing this - valuable!

4
Perfect timing
by morrow2910 on 02/01/2011 09:45am

We received our rescue dog a few days after her spaying. I wish I had read this article and known to be more careful with her feeding right then. We were switching her food and moving her off a grain based food to the same food our other very active dog eats. Unfortunately Sophie HAS gained weight and while I have cut her feedings to two 1/2 cup servings of mixed wet/dry food, I have been seeing some results from feeding more wet food and less dry. Her dry food is calorie reduced, no grain, but the protein was quite high. Just looking at the wet food and rationalizing the amount of broth/water in processing, I thought it might help to lessen her dry food and up her wet.

Another thing that I figured out is that I cannot find the calorie amount for her treats! How frustrating! I have checked the bag, the company website, any number of dog food sites. Nice. So she gets 2 treats a day broken into 4 bits (I rationalize she is looking at the number not the size of the portion). In any case, thanks for writing about your visit to England. I lived there for 7 years in the 80's and found it a wonderful place to be, even if they did put rabbits in their dog food :( I had a wonderful Tibetan Terrier we were given for free who turned out to be the dog of my dreams. He lived 15 years on some of the worst food ever...oh what I have learned since then!

by beachpoet on 02/02/2011 08:12am

I feed my dog Prescription Diet hypoallergenic dog treats - they put the calorie content right on the bag - 17 cal/treat, and they're a decent sized, small biscuit. You should be able to order them through your vet, but you might have to buy them by the case if your vet doesn't usually stock them. I think a case is 12 bags.

5
It's all about the food
by RealityCheck on 02/01/2011 10:51am

After switching my cats to a raw meat diet several years ago, the weight problems AND the dental problems have all but disappeared. Chubby cats lost weight; yellow teeth became white again; their coats are gorgeous; eye buggers gone; little red patches on their back legs healed. Come visit me, I’ll show ya.

6
Wet vs. Dry Cat Food
by Lindsey on 02/01/2011 12:39pm

"The assumption is that wet food led to increased activity, which is presumably what leads to a weight disparity in cats fed these dueling feeding formats.

Why?

No idea."

Maybe because they're not living in a state of chronic dehydration? I don't know about you, but when I'm dehydrated, I don't exactly feel like a spring chicken.

7
@morrow2910
by Anne in Socal on 02/01/2011 02:31pm

You might be able to get information on caloric value by contacting the company via their website. I needed this information for a particular food formula that didn't list it on the can, the website or anywhere online, but their customer service answered my email with the information.

There is a wide variety in caloric content in wet foods, like from 300-500+ calories per can. The reduced calorie foods aren't the only ones in the lower calorie range, either. Many brands have the information right on the can if you read the fine print, but if they don't, it's worth asking.

by morrow2910 on 02/02/2011 02:24am

Thanks Anne. I tried that. I wrote the company saying that calorie count was important in keeping my dog healthy and while I appreciated the good ingredients, it would really help me to know the calories associated so i don't overfeed. They never answered.

8
UK Visit
by CP on 02/01/2011 02:45pm

Enjoyed your article. Glad you had a great educational time. Please let us know where you got world class food in the UK! Love it there (one of my very bestest (sic) friends lives in Dorset)but would never describe the food as wonderful.

by redkitty1 on 02/01/2011 03:35pm

You mean you don't consider bubble and squeak or toad in a hole as a first-class dining experience? LOL

by CP on 02/01/2011 04:25pm

I had really wanted to have high tea at one London's elegant hotels - the Savoy I think. Didn't make it. My UK friend is a fine cook - makes great trifle. Since Dr. Khuly seems to be something of a gourmet things must have changed!

Can't beat the UK for friendliness and history. Wonderful transportation system too.

by Dr. Patty Khuly on 02/01/2011 05:03pm

I MUST defend the UK on this one:

When I was last in London two decades ago, the best food was in the ethnic restaurants. Amazing Indian fare. Really special French and Italian food. Even excellent vegetarian food! But no fine Brit eats to speak of.

Fast-forward to 2011 and not only is the ethnic food still tops but the traditional fare is amazingly good, too. We ate Indian at Veerswami and Zaika, which were superb, great dim sum-ish Chinese at a a place I think was called Yauacha, and the best Spanish tapas EVER at a tiny spot in Soho called Barrafina.

For the British spots, I recommend The Harwood Arms, where the place is so locavorish tha chef actually bags his own game. We had hare and a haunch of roe deer. And THAT was the best meal I ate in London. Next up, Gordon Ramsey's Maze. It was next best but very Miami-ish so not as exciting.

High tea at the Connaught was very special. And expensive. Shockingly so, I might add. But I guess you might've expected it from a place that asks what kind of champagne you'd like even before you're seated. Then there were the perfect museum meals at the Tate and the British Museum.

Great restaurants were everywhere. Next time you go, just ask for a "gastropub" if you want great British food. That's code for British bistro food that's really really good.

Weren't you glad you asked about the food?

by CP on 02/01/2011 05:18pm

Yes! The times they are a changin'...

9
by ualagirl on 02/02/2011 12:31am

Looking forward to further observations on your visit. Did raw diets ever come up? I would think they would see that as a growing boutique market. Did they talk about effect of carbs in cat food?

by Dr. Patty Khuly on 02/02/2011 08:36am

No, raw didn't come up but there was an abstract included in our reading materiala that did look at weights of dogs who ate barf diets. I'll try to dig up the whole paper and see if I can't make a post out of it. Thanks for asking!

by Dr. Patty Khuly on 02/02/2011 08:38am

Oops, the carb in cat foods thing: They did touch on it. Actually, I think I will have to do a post on kitty food. So much interest in what's new here. Later this week or next. Stay tuned.

10
Help With Feeding
by Welkin on 02/02/2011 09:22am

I have an elderly GS dog with autoimmune disorders. I have been feeding single protein foods, one after the other as he becomes allergic to the protein involved (about 8 months per protein or so), since he was 4 - he's 11 now. At this point, he reacts to any protein I can find in a dog food - beef, chicken, turkey, venison, duck, salmon, whitefish, buffalo, pork. I could do rabbit, but the only food I can find has salmon as a second ingredient. He ate vegetarian Natural Balance for a year, but will no longer touch it - he will starve first.... The hydrolized protein food was my 'ace in the hole' but it was obvious right away that he was reacting to that food, also - I persisted for 6 weeks. It is important to give him something he isn't allergic to, when his immune system is reactive, his other disorders flare (PF, DM). At this point, with nothing nonallergenic to feed him, he has yeast in his ears & on his back, his DM is progressing faster than it was, etc. Help! What can I feed him? I can't get goose... or ostrich... Can a dog live on peanut butter sandwiches? Has anyone seen a tofu diet for dogs?

by Dr. Patty Khuly on 02/02/2011 10:47am

You need a nutritionist consultation. Check out the American Association of Veterinary Nutritionists at AAVN.org for a list of nutritionists who will accept telephone consultations either with pet owners directly or with their veterinarians.

FYI: You can find rabbit as a single-source protein in Royal Canin's rabbit and potato diet.

by Anne in Socal on 02/02/2011 02:51pm

I have seen somewhere a kangaroo diet. There are more obscure proteins coming out every day it seems.

by VetTechKid on 02/02/2011 06:34pm

Science Diet's k/d prescription diet is kangaroo, I believe. It's what we've used at school (vet tech program) for several of our tender-tummied GSD's that seemed to get sick with any or everything else we tried. It's only available through a vet's office, so it's a little expensive, but I'd be surprised if they didn't suggest it at your vet's.

by sleepyjean23 on 02/03/2011 02:59pm

Hill's k/d diet is made for those pets with kidney disease or in kidney failure. Kangaroo is NOT an ingredient in the diet.

I believe there is a brand (might be Australian?) called Addiction that uses novel proteins like pheasant and kangaroo. They might even have possum (or a related marsupial).

11
perception
by rockjdog on 02/02/2011 10:00am

Well perception is nothing new and is done all the time.
Even P&G changes the package on their products every six months.
We always see " new and improved" on packages.

So it is with pet products too. Add gravy to can food, make the can square, make it look like meatballs and so on. That is for us. If it looks like something we would eat then it equates with quality or so we think.

The thing I don't understand is why it is so hard to see that really good human grade meats and grains do promote good health in dogs and cats.

I can tell you time and time again after adopting a dog and putting them on a good holistic brand of pet food I see the dry flakes disappear, coats get soft, shiny and thick, teeth have less tartar, the dogs crave less food, and they have a good level of energy and so on.

Is it really hard to see that? I do see these changes and I am pretty sure I am not imagining it.

12
Well done!
by dvmdv8 on 02/02/2011 01:59pm

OK, so I shed a tiny tear as the deep, deep conversations we had did not make it into this blog, but I was able to buck up and bravely soldier on. Thanks for sharing your viewpoints on the trip with everyone - I am still waiting for those pictures you offered/threatened!

...and no mention of the pork pies...

13
Actually...
by Dr. Patty Khuly on 02/02/2011 05:29pm

...the pork pies did make it into tomorrow's post! Read it and weep (with mirth, I hope).

Oh, and our deep conversation ... that was just for us, honey. ;-)

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Dr. Khuly is a former petMD blogger and small animal veterinarian in Miami, Florida, where she practices medicine at Sunset Animal Clinic and serves on the board of the South Florida Veterinary Medical Association. She is a graduate of Wellesley College, the University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine, and The Wharton School of Business.

As a significant sideline, she writes...a lot. She authors pet health columns for USA Today, The Miami Herald and Vetstreet. She also writes a popular monthly column for Veterinary Practice News and serves as regular contributor to Veterinary Economics, The Bark, and the Veterinary News Network.

Dr. Khuly lives in South Miami with her brood of hens, goats, dogs, cats...and humans.

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