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BSL is a bitch...until a judge says otherwise

January 26, 2010 / (19) comments


Yesterday’s post on PetMD treated the controversial topic of BSL (AKA, “breed specific legislation”). OK so it may not be that controversial among the peteratti (i.e., smart pet peeps like you), but rest assured there are plenty of ill-informed politicians looking for a quick way to impress their constituents with laws like Miami’s sweeping, 25 year-old pit bull ban. 

 

But not all states and municipalities are going the same way on this issue. While politicians may push to install these seemingly politically expedient laws, some courts are finding they’re not always so fair. 

 

Consider Toledo, Ohio. Pit bulls there must be penned, insured and muzzled when in public. You can’t have more than one of them. And, as is the case in my hometown, a pit bull mix is considered a pit. Therefore, the same laws apply to any dog that looks like one...

 

...unless it has papers that say it’s not, as one Toledo man learned the hard way after taking his dogs’ case to court. 

 

In the case of three mislabeled pit bulls (they were actually cane Corsos), a judge ruled that the municipality not only eff’ed up in erroneously deeming these dogs pits, it also overstepped the bounds of constitutionality by outstripping the state’s provisions and applying law arbitrarily. According to a piece on this in ToledoBlade.com:

Judge Goulding...wrote that a provision of the city law lumping "pit bull mixed breed" dogs with "pit bulls" is unconstitutional. That judgment could have wide implications in the county, as the dog warden's office refuses to adopt out adult "pit bull" mixes as well as "pit bulls."

In fact, until this ruling, the city had staunchly upheld a policy prohibiting unclaimed pit bull puppies from leaving the pound. Which meant insta-euthanasia for any pup born of a pitty looking thing. This was reversed just last Tuesday. 

 

What’s more, here’s what this judge had to say on the subject of BSL in general:

A more uniform, practical, and humane method of regulating dogs, which both preserves the safety of the public and focuses on the dangers and misdeeds of irresponsible dog owners, would seem preferable to the status quo.

I couldn't have said it better.

 

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COMMENTS (19)
1
by PJB on 01/31/2010 03:45am

Sorry about that.  Let's try it this way.

2
by Deanna on 01/30/2010 08:48pm

Dr. K. wrote: "Toledo's 'top dog' of their animal services has resigned (got the boot?). He'll be out as of Jan 31, I've read."


Dang, I've been too busy to keep up with the news in my own metro area. I thought he was gone as of the end of last year. The end cannot come too soon. Let's just say that the man is NOT popular with any pet owner in the area. And it goes waaaaay back further than 6 months. I've been living here for 5 1/2 years and I remember shortly after I moved here his door-to-door campaign to ensure that all dogs were licensed. Yup, his minions knocked on doors and demanded to see evidence that the dogs within were licensed and attempted to issue tickets if they weren't Does this sound like "improper search" to anyone? Not only that, he didn't exactly knock on the doors of every neighborhood. I live south of Toledo in a neighboring county and am sooooo glad.


BSL is ridiculous. A friend of mine was attacked while walking her dog in Dayton by a neighbor's Presa Canarios (or however that's spelled). She wasn't even on the same street as the house where they lived. PC's and Cane Corsos are the new pitbull or Rottweiler. It's not the breed, it's the people who own these breeds who don't train them or contain them properly.


Yes, Toledo is a weird place. But we have a great art museum! :-) It's interesting to me that Toledo's animal control has received nat'l attention. I bet most people here don't have a clue that Toledo animal control would be of interest to y'all.

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by Dr. Patty Khuly on 01/30/2010 09:51am

PJB: Could you repost that link?

4
by PJB on 01/29/2010 10:41pm

Poll on whether or not "pit bulls" should be classified as dangerous;  right now 85%+ of respondents answering: "Yes, we have to stop the attacks".  Please go vote "NO".


http://www.stuff. co.nz/dominion- post/national/ 3268513/Pit- bull-breeders- say-moves- to-curb-breed- uninformed

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by Kate on 01/28/2010 10:02pm

It all depends on responsible dog ownership...Do not attempt to own a dog if you do not know how to. Dogs are not things, they may not know how to speak, but they definitely have feelings and emotions similar to humans...Sometimes, dogs are even more "human" than the actual human!

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by EAB on 01/28/2010 11:03am

To clarify, my dreamworld idea was for all breeds, even those silly little toys that the celebs carry in their purse.  On the soapbox for a short rant, all of my dreamworld ideas would be possible if we got the animal population issue under control, which is another issue completely.  As long as the laws remain as they are, with no regulation to sellers, buyers, or the "giver uppers", these issues will still be around.

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by Carissa on 01/28/2010 10:22am

It might sound incredibly over the top, but perhaps part of the licensing process is a disposition test for the dog. Really, if guns have to be registered, and dogs are potentially dangerous...kind of makes sense. That's why it will NEVER happen.


 


All dogs are potentially dangerous, not just "dangerous breeds" (maybe you meant that and I just read wrong). Also, this would result in nothing except a decrease in dogs being licensed -- as in, the irresponsible owner who does own a dangerous, ill-dispositioned dog just won't license the dog. Not sure what that accomplishes. It's part of why BSL doesn't work... it only punishes those who follow the rules. Those who the law needs to be made for were never planning on following the rules to begin with. As such, you are left with ONLY thugs and irresponsible people owning these banned breeds and all the responsible people get punished for something they and their dog didn't even do.


 


Dangerous Dog Laws are what's needed and can be properly enforced, not Breed Specific Legislation. Most people can't tell a "pit bull" from a dalmatian, including many local Animal Control offices -- nor do a great percentage of them even know that "pit bull" refers to the type and not one specific breed -- why I would want a law where I have to trust them to identify breeds and give them death sentences based on that alone is beyond me.


 

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by EAB on 01/28/2010 09:22am

One more thing.  (oh my, here he goes again...).  It has been my observation that some (not all, but some) pedegrees have that wired "one way mindset" that can initiate a very motivated behavior to do something.  With greyhounds, its chase.  Retrievers, it's go get the item at all cost.  Unfortunately, with some power breeds, once they go "red zone" it's over. 


My mutt can retrieve, chase, track, etc; and even play rough enough with biting and growling to scare off people, but she doesn't have the drive of a pedegree to do any of these things.  She can be called off of any behavior, and senses fear and submission.  I see only a few pedegrees that are the same way.

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by EAB on 01/28/2010 09:17am

It might sound incredibly over the top, but perhaps part of the licensing process is a disposition test for the dog.  Really, if guns have to be registered, and dogs are potentially dangerous...kind of makes sense.  That's why it will NEVER happen.

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by Larrys on 01/28/2010 07:00am

Last week a friend of mine was attacked by a pit bull. As I understand the dog escaped from his home, attacked my friend and his dog, went into a house killed a Yorkie and then attacked a K9 dog and was finnaly was shot by K9 handler. It has recieved no local coverage and I would be skeptical except it was a friend. Friends cocker spaniel will be ok.


Now with that being said, I am waiting for the local authorities to want to pass rules banning Pit Bulls. My two goldens have spent quality time at a dog park playing with Pit Bulls, Rotties,  and  every other breed. Responsible ownership is the key. Pit Bull has become a word for anything that "looks like a pit bull". I am waiting for Golden's to be next because I have heard that htey are number three on the bite list. I agree with the first comment "Punish the deed, not the breed. Promote RESPONSIBLE ownership!'


I have had more scratches from my cats than my dogs.

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by wikith on 01/27/2010 08:35am

My county has a ban on pit bulls. We see an awful lot of "Cane Corsos," and there are a lot of undefined mixed breeds...


Any dg over a certain size has a potential to kill, and any dog no matter the breed has a potential to bite. I'm all for dangerous dog legislation that imposes consequences for dogs that bite or show aggression, or even requires dogs over a certain weight to get a CGC or therapy type certification, but it drives me crazy that so many sweet, good dogs are not even technically allowed to step foot in the county.

12
by stefani on 01/26/2010 05:40pm

Wow, in this age of incomprehensible legal decisions, this guy's a winner.

13
by Dr. Patty Khuly on 01/26/2010 04:09pm

cl: Toledo's "top dog" of their animal services has resigned (got the boot?). He'll be out as of Jan 31, I've read.

14
by cl on 01/26/2010 03:51pm

Well Toledo is rather a nutty place anyways.


 


 


 


In the last 6 months they've been under fire for:


Too few adoptions vs high euth. rate


 http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091122/NEWS16/911229999 


Killing a dog with a tranq. dart


http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091203/NEWS16/912030357


 


And even ticketing residents for parking on their own driveways!! No joke.


http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/06/toledo_residents_find_25_parki.html


 


 I wouldn't put anything past Toledo, my appologies if any of you live there and enjoy it.


 


 


 


 

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by EAB on 01/26/2010 03:49pm

Our Tina is a very good, perceptive dog.  Around aggressive dogs, she will keep to herself and not engage.  However, if there is a dog that likes to play and she senses no aggressive energy, she'll play they way they want.  Chase, wrestle, whatever their game, she's up for it.  In fact, last year once, totally accidental, but she got knocked out by the right "punch" of a boxer.  She was back up in a few seconds, shook it off, and away they went again.


Anyway, last year at a same dog park, she played aggressively with another dog.  There was growling, and even a few times when she got scared and overwhelmed (we've all seen it) the other dog backed off, gave Tina the "oops, sorry bout that" look, and off they'd go again.


The other dog?  A 11 month old Pit Bull that seemed to me to be every bit as timid and goofy as our mutt.   I have met too many of these "fighting breeds" that are timid and loving for it to be the national problem the mainstream tries to make it.

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by Jen (www.booizzy.com) on 01/26/2010 03:29pm

Thanks for posting on the idiocy of BSL. I'm fortunate to live in an area (Salt Lake) that is actually trying to promote adoption and responsible ownership of pit bulls with free CGC classes and spay/neuters for all pits in the county. Having two of my own that are the best dogs ever, I don't know what I'd do if I had to deal with laws like those in Miami or Denver.


If anyone wants to learn more about dog aggression and why pits aren't the problem, the National Canine Research Center is distributing a PDF version of the book the Pit Bull Placebo for free on their website:


http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/ncrc-publications/

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by EAB on 01/26/2010 03:00pm

Two weeks ago my Tina got her Therapy Dog International cert (I could write a blog entry on this, I am so proud of the WONDERMUTT).  A byproduct was the certifying official provided me with the sheet that said Tina also was AKC Canine Good Citizen certified.  In her own words, she said "you can mail it in, but except for a certificate, it gets you nothing."


Why is that?  Why not have agencies, dog parks, and even "frequented" places start recognizing the AKC, TDI, and other "conduct specific" certifications?  For example, in the case of a breed that could become violent (general statement, I know some very nice pits and mastifs), enforce the muzzles and such with the provision that if the dog has one of these conduct specific certifications, they are exempt?  Now of the certifications, the TDI is a better cert IMHO because the certifying official hugs the dog, handles the paws, and even pulls an ear or two; all stuff that would be expected in a medical therapy situation.  No matter the breed, if a complete stranger can hug the dog, pull an ear, and handle paws, and do it all in the presence of other dogs without the dog becoming scared or violent, that dog, at a minimum, doesn't need a muzzle.

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by Pam on 01/26/2010 02:20pm

BRAVO for Judge Goulding!

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by ta2kitty on 01/26/2010 02:06pm

Punish the deed, not the breed. Promote RESPONSIBLE ownership!

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