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The Power of the CT Scan (and Other Tales from Vincent’s Big Day in the OR)

August 31, 2010 / (18) comments


If you’re among those pet owners that have been unlucky enough to have lived through serious problems with your pets — yet fortunate enough to have the means (financial or otherwise) to deal with them — you’re probably already aware of the rising importance of the CT scan in veterinary medicine.

Here’s some background for the most avid vet voyeurs among you:

In the 1960s and ‘70s, veterinarians were busy buying up X-ray machines — big, hulking, melamine-topped tables with huge cathode ray tubes suspended menacingly overhead. Along came the ‘80s and ‘90s, when the ultrasound revolution swept through vet medicine. 

No, ultrasounds would not replace X-rays. Not only because each imaging approach offers its own unique set of pros and cons, but also because their significant expense and steep learning curve still proved best suited to those who could dedicate themselves seriously to this study. Also because it's a common joke that the term "diagnostic ultrasound" is an oxymoron. And you know what they say about the best jokes: they're never too far from the truth.

Hence, an ultrasound for each and every practice started to seem like serious overkill. (Sure, you can get a machine for $10K, but do you really want it for more than bladder sticks and preg checks?)

Next came the latter ‘90s, and with vet specialization in full swing, specialty practices were able to spend their collective bucks on serious power tools. That’s when the CT scan made its big entry into the word of vet medicine.

"CT" — as in computed tomography (aka "CAT Scan") — is a medical imaging method that uses a computer mapping system to generate a three-dimensional image of a patient. This is accomplished by reorganizing the data from a huge series of two-dimensional X-ray images that are taken as the patient lies in a tube shaped structure.

The idea is this: if a picture is worth a thousand words, how much is a 3-D reconstruction based on thousands of images worth?

Priceless, right? Well … not exactly. I’ve paid up to $2,900 for a CT for my pets (though the steepest fee was eventually discounted out of "professional courtesy"). I’ve heard that in some parts of the country a CT can even go for $4K, depending on the ancillary issues involved (serious anesthetic requirements/limitations, for example).

Price aside (tacky to bring up money so quickly), the critical issue with CTs is this: sometimes no other imaging study will do (imagine trying to identify the margins of a brain tumor with a simple X-ray). Other times we employ it because it’s the least invasive approach. Of course, all that exposure to X-rays is not something we take lightly (I would never advocate an annual CT as a simple screening, as some human-care practitioners have advocated to their patients), but we’ll almost always prefer a radiation-riddled CT over invasive exploratory surgery.

In Vincent’s case, the CT was considered the best way to look into his spinal canal in search of areas where abnormal vertebrae or diseased disc material might be compressing his cord. Problem is, Vincent’s spine is so deformed that the radiologist easily ID’d multiple areas where compression might be taking place.

Here's a pic of the disaster that is his spine ("The spine from hell"):



Here's a close-up of those nasty hemivertebrae (aka "butterfly" vertebrae):



The tight spots were, 1) over his thoracic spine (where an explosion of hemivertebrae apparently took place during Vincent’s embryological development — see arrows); 2) in his lumbar spine, where two intervertebral spaces (L4-L5, L5-L6) had some mineralized disc material popping down onto the canal; and 3) in the spinal cord’s hinterlands at the lumbosacral space — tight in there. Could there be some sick disc material accounting for that? Very likely, from the looks of it.

The thing is, Vincent’s clinical signs were most consistent with either the lumbosacral lesion or the lower lumbar spots. But we couldn’t tell whether the spinal cord was actually being compressed or not — not without a way to highlight the spinal cord itself. Hence, the need for a second CT experience, this time with contrast material added to highlight the degree of insult the cord is actually experiencing.

Now, one great reason to use a CT is so you can get away with not applying an invasive technique like the myelogram. But sometimes it’s needed to ensure that we reach the right diagnosis. With a myelogram, contrast material is injected into the space surrounding the cord. Here's Vincent, anesthetized, awaiting word on the success of the study alongside his favorite vet tech, Laura:



It’s sort of like the epidural anesthesia experience some of us have experienced — except with lots more headachy-ness and residual discomfort (if what humans experience is any guide), and a reasonably high risk of a serious reaction to the material itself. Yes, sudden death can happen during myelograms, which is one reason veterinarians make you sign all those fiddly forms before we undertake tough procedures like these.

Vincent powered through nicely, though, and by day’s end the radiologist had confirmed the surgeon’s read of the study, whose diagnosis had been to cut the lumbosacral spot — which he then did. And when he did, a big blob of disc material was sitting right there, begging to be removed. Now for the scary stuff: applying cold steel to what is perhaps the most vulnerable bit of mammalian anatomy in an effort to free the spinal cord of this miserable junk.

As you already know from yesterday’s post, Vincent did a great job recovering. He spent the weekend in something of a post-fentanyl haze, so I didn’t expect to see miracles of improvement in his function. Still, he’s walking, wanting to jump (I will not be letting him get away with this), and begging for more food to fatten up his frame (which I will also not be letting him do).

In fact, Vincent is already better than before, neurologically speaking. Which is a whole lot more than I can say for my cable modem (still not fixed despite the cable man’s visit). My car’s recently "repaired" AC relapsed over the weekend (this will be the third trip to the dealership on this one issue), and two different repairmen can’t seem to agree as to whether my lightning-struck washer and dryer are truly dead or not.

Which makes me wonder: Mechanical devices being less fiddly than biological organisms and all … maybe what these unhappy appliances really need is something that has become disturbingly hard to find — someone who actually knows what s/he’s doing. Sad, innit?


 

Dr. Patty Khuly

 

 

P.S. - I know some of you will invariably ask the question: Why not an MRI? Here's my answer: The MRI is unquestionably a superior tool for soft tissue evaluation, with no radiation fears. And with it, we would not have needed to do a myelogram. Compression of the cord would have been visible. In Vincent's case, however, we really needed a CT, seeing as his obvious bony malformations were high on the list of possible causes for his clinical signs. Ideally, we would have done a CT and then an MRI. All the specialty hospital needs now is a few hundred thousand dollars for a (used) MRI machine. Maybe next year. ;-)

Here are another couple of pics to illustrate his "poor posture." In this one he's actually sitting up on his forelimbs, not "frog-sleeping." Decidedly abnormal.



Here's another pic to give you a clearer picture of his loss of function. His toes are all "knuckled" over. His brain is not getting great reception on that channel.

 

 

Pic of the day: "Vince Has a Sad" by me

 

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COMMENTS (18)
1
by itserich on 08/31/2010 06:54am

Good luck little Vincent.

FWIW, I have cable internet and DSL and DSL never seems to have the problems of cable, but DSL is only used as a backup so who knows.

2
by boehmec on 08/31/2010 08:41am

I had a very similar case in vet school, on a bull dog, too.

You may want to look at a whole house surge protector...the small inconvenience and price may offset the headache of having to deal with a lightening strike.

3
Vincent / Lucky boy
by kay morris on 08/31/2010 09:09am

He is a handsome little guy, thank-you for the update. Wish only the best for you and Vincent.

4
by annet on 08/31/2010 09:16am

We've had an ultrasound suggested for a feline heart murmur (pretty bad on the subjective "that sounds bad" scale). Is that the best course of action or should I push for a different scan? I'd really like the minimize kitty's discomfort.

I'm glad you're able to help Vincent. That face! Hehe, the last picture is awesome :)

5
Vincent, and vet talk
by animalartist on 08/31/2010 10:11am

See, in answer to your question a few weeks ago about whether or not your posts had too much vet gobble, I would say absolutely not. This post with all the technical information and photos is not only interesting it's valuable. Who knows when someday I, or someone else, may recall this information and find it really valuable for any reason--the scans, the surgery, Vincent's symptoms.

Good luck to Vincent, and I'm glad he can get such excellent care. I had a cat with HCM and CHF for four years and had regular ultrasounds and emergency visits to his buddies at the specialty clinic/emergency hospital, and while it could be difficult to come up with the treatment, as long as he wanted it I did everything I could.

I wouldn't mind seeing more cat information, though--I have only cats, and have nine right now, my "leftovers" as I call them, from rescue and foster.

6
who coulda known?
by H. Houlahan on 08/31/2010 10:49am

That those levies that are supposed to be Vincent's spine would fail?

Breed standard specifically allows for a screw tail -- a serious genetic spinal abnormality of the caudal vertebra.

So guess what his other vertebrae are also trying to do, impeded only by those pesky ribs and loin muscles?

All that pain and suffering -- I cannot even imagine how much pain -- because people find a genetically malformed caudal spine "cute" and reward one another with blue ribbons when they breed dogs to suffer from it.

7
Scans vs. X-rays
by Tripawds on 08/31/2010 11:35am

I'm with animalartist, very interesting and informative post indeed!

Tripawds members are intimately familiar with MRIs and CT scans for their pups with bone cancer and/or metastases, including sometimes, spinal mets. :-( They also know the related costs all to well. Some new members wonder why pay more when they're vet does x-rays in-house. Posts like this can help us explain.

For more on this topic, readers might also find our video interview with Laura Hady describing the benefits of scans over x-rays interesting.

Thanks for this!

8
frenchies and bad backs
by alissaaa on 08/31/2010 01:26pm

Is there anything that those of us with Frenchies or other dogs that tend to have these types of back problems can do to catch this type of thing earlier on? Things to be on the lookout for?

9
Recover quickly sweet Vin
by kayala1 on 08/31/2010 02:36pm

I wish a speedy and complete recovery for little Vincent. Bless you for getting the surgery he so obviously needed!
Last Christmas we got double knee surgery for 2 luxating Patellas for Little Penny and while I was very happy knowing she'd no longer be in pain, you just stress and worry over the little fur kids while they're recovering, you can't help it. Hang in there, he'll be on his feet and running around pain free in no time at all!
I was wondering, do you as a vet have pet insurance? Just curious. I have it and love it, but it didn't cover the LP surgery.
It horrifies me how many people have dogs with obvious issues that don't get the vet care the animals need due to cost concerns. I just want to run up and take thier dogs away. I always applaud those who care enough for thier animals to take great care of thier fur babies.
Kisses from Penny to sweet Vincent!
Kay & Little Penny Pooper

10
ultrasound
by ResQ Gal on 08/31/2010 03:07pm

I'm glad that Vincent is on the road to recovery - he sure is lucky to have you as his mommy! Now - about your statement that "diagnostic ultrasound" is an oxymoron.........
I have been a registered diagnostic medical sonographer for 23 yrs. Granted, I work on people, not animals, so maybe I am taking your comment out of context. Perhaps your meaning was that diagnostic ultrasound is so operator dependent (and it is!)that it makes it difficult to develop the expertise needed to utilize it. I just want your readers to know that in human medicine, diagnostic ultrasound is NOT an oxymoron!

11
Ultrasound
by TTofer on 08/31/2010 03:07pm

Annet, I had a cat get an ultrasound for a heart murmur 6 or 7 years ago; it wasn't uncomfortable at all, and no sedation was needed. They just shaved a patch of his fur and gently held him on the table while they ran the handheld machine over him, which took maybe two minutes. Vet visits terrify my cat under any circumstances, but he didn't seem to think this was any worse than usual.

12
by Dr. Patty Khuly on 08/31/2010 05:31pm

H. Houlahan: I so agree. Sometimes I think the only people who can afford to keep Frenchies in the manner to which they MUST become accustomed (medically speaking) are the affluent...or veterinarians with great surgeon connections. Truth is, most of my Frenchie clients are very well off. Unfortunately, that's much less true about English bulldog clients. Interesting, right? Either way, doesn't say much for the responsible breeders in charge of these defects.

btw, screwtails are not considered a plus in the show ring. They're a requirement. I'm sure you (HH) know that, I just wanted to clarify this for the sake of others.

13
by H. Houlahan on 09/01/2010 09:26pm

Doesn't matter how rich or well-connected the owner is, there's no way to buy or cut a way out of the bare fact that the dog will suffer.

Suffer chronically, unnecessarily, and totally avoidably because of "consumer" demand for a pet with multiple tragic birth defects.

I used to issue dire warnings about the vet costs to people who coveted a pug, Frenchie or English bulldog, until I figured out why it wasn't working.

Perversely, emphasizing how expensive it is to keep an intentionally deformed dog going just increases their status value.

So now I just try to steer them to a rescue. They can add the cachet of "I rescued her" to the financial pronking of being able to handle the vet bills.

14
wow!
by BarbaraA on 09/05/2010 07:13pm

Sure glad Vincent is on the mend!

Although I never looked at the MRI scan so thoughtfully provided to me on Pearl, I doubt that her spine looks like that! Sealyhams aren't meant to have screw tails, but some undocked ones do have a serious "curve".

And Res Q Gal, I agree 100% with human u/s training, since my Mom had a plenty to mark the spot for "pleural taps"

However as Dr. K. mentioned, there is a real learning curve and proficiency to "diagnostic ultrasound", which me as a "lay person" never questioned or considered--- that is, until too late.

I was fortunate to correspond with a renowned long distance Veterinary Board Radiologist, that after a few emails that I had difficulty with called me to explain "all the intricacies" involved with both "recording, picture-taking, and interpretation of what I questioned.

Made me feel enlightened, although *very* ignorant of some of the cash spent for various ones long past. I'm sure the obvious issues are as plain as an x-ray (radiograph) , but some aren't or perhaps "hidden"

15
Glad to hear
by Marie in Maine on 09/06/2010 08:46pm

So glad to hear Vincent is on the mend. He's a real cutie. How does he do with Slumdog?

Great post!! Thanks for all the wonderful information.

As a person who has owned a frenchie, and has a sister with bulldogs, I appreciate this kind of straight talk on the subject. People need to know the issues of the breeds they love if they want to share their lives with them. Then at least they can't say they weren't warned. (and one would hope they look for a breeder that TRIES to breed away from the serious issues within those breeds)

http://k-9solutionsdogtraininginc.blogspot.com

16
Update on Vincent
by skinnybonedog on 09/08/2010 09:36am

I think we all would like to know how Vincent is doing??

17
Vincent update
by Dr. Patty Khuly on 09/08/2010 09:42am

Thanks for the nudge. Vincent is doing better now. He had improved initially and then had a setback we believe was related to overexertion/too much activity too soon. He's now doing better after hanging out in a crate over the long weekend. He wasn't happy but it seems to have helped immensely. He's now walking with less dragging and he's knuckling less. I was trying to hold off thinking I wouldn't need them, but I've had to resort to ordering the Dog Pawz booties so he doesn't slip on the tile. I've also started him on a four-week Adequan regimen. All in all, however, his recovery is ambling along as well as can be expected, if not better.

18
post-surgery
by BarbaraA on 09/08/2010 06:56pm

Dr. K: we were advised another long month of confinement and to use a sling to take our girl out for potty . Just a simple non-cling long ace bandage to steady him.

Also we enclosed a pen with washable non-skid-back throw rugs.

Good luck with all the post-sugery rehab, seems like it takes forever.

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Dr. Khuly is a former petMD blogger and small animal veterinarian in Miami, Florida, where she practices medicine at Sunset Animal Clinic and serves on the board of the South Florida Veterinary Medical Association. She is a graduate of Wellesley College, the University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine, and The Wharton School of Business.

As a significant sideline, she writes...a lot. She authors pet health columns for USA Today, The Miami Herald and Vetstreet. She also writes a popular monthly column for Veterinary Practice News and serves as regular contributor to Veterinary Economics, The Bark, and the Veterinary News Network.

Dr. Khuly lives in South Miami with her brood of hens, goats, dogs, cats...and humans.

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