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Hard-boiling Eggs After the Recall? Not I!

August 24, 2010 / (24) comments


As many FullyVetted readers already know, I keep my own chicken factory in-house.

Indeed, my suburban Miami household is vertically integrated: Chicken eggs come in through the backyard (where my nine hens live), get stored in the fridge, processed in the kitchen, served in the dining room (as mayo, salad, or flan, for example), and "re-processed" via our human physiology so they can be expelled in the loo.

Can there be any better example of how it should be? With a dollop of expense and a soupçon of setup labor, we humans can get our food fresher, faster, funner and (yes!) safer than we might via supermarket. Add in environmental sustainability and animal welfare, amongst other benefits, and it’s shocking to me that more Americans don’t keep backyard birds for all their egg-y needs.

This latest recall — of eggs labeled "for human consumption," this time — lends even more credence to the concept that eggs are a product that more humans might want to bring "in house."

As I wrote in my USA Today column for this week: "Why? Because as any veterinarian can tell you — trained in fish, ferrets or hoofstock though we may be — chickens are just like any other species in their epidemiological tendencies. Where they gather in ever-greater concentrations, disease will spead in ways we have a term for: 'exponential.'"

Yep, I have this thing about animal crowding. Even if it’s what the bean-counters think is best, it’s not necessarily what’s best for the animals or for those who consume them. Which is why I went out of my way to try to convert USA Today readers everywhere to my way of thinking about backyard chicken-keeping:


Even if I didn’t revel in the kooky antics of my backyard flock or take an outsized pride in the intense orange color and deep, earthy flavor of these truly free-ranged birds’ eggs, I would be slapping myself on the back for all the good I’m doing for the environment by keeping carbon levels lower, pesticides off the ground (mine, at least), and less nitrogenous waste in our water supply. Then there’s the better health and welfare of the birds to consider. Because they are indubitably the happiest, healthiest birds I ever met (so says this doting flock-mother).

So it is that sometimes I sit, pondering my chickens and wondering why the heck it is I didn’t enrich my life — and, indeed, the world at large — with them sooner than I did. Given all that self-congratulatory sappiness, is it any wonder that this hen-mistress is feeling completely unsurprised that the country is in crisis over its egg supply?


You can’t blame me for trying to witness to the world, can you? So how about you? Are you convincible? 

 

 

Dr. Patty Khuly

 

 

Pic of the day: "My eggs!" by me

 

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COMMENTS (24)
1
hardboiling eggs?
by on 08/24/2010 01:59am

Am I missing something? What does hard boiling eggs have to do with your article and the recall?

I say three cheers for back yard chickens! I wish I had the courage to have my own small backyard flock! I live in a small town, but there is a town ordinance against maintaining farm animals on the property. :-(

2
by on 08/24/2010 07:06am

This also makes me very happy that I am able to supply my family with "home-grown" eggs. We raise free range chickens and ducks (about 100 total) and collect eggs several times daily. Love having my little farm here :)

3
by on 08/24/2010 07:14am

but there is a town ordinance against maintaining farm animals on the property. :-(
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Tons of towns and cities have these on the books because G-d forbid a chicken ruins the neighbours Lexus (Im not sure how, but neighbour is convinced it will) or a rooster wakes fat neighbour at 4am with its crowing HAHAHAHAHA Again, said neighbour prefers the wake call of a Viagra ad on TV over the beautiful call of nature Anyway, having chickens is amazing.....besides the eggs they lay, they eat all the things you dont want to see or feel...ticks and mosquitoes are prime examples. And boy oh boy are these chickens social!! They are worse than dogs! Given the option a chicken will follow you every where LOL Anyway all this to say screw the towns shortsighted lawmakers and fill your yard/porch with a chicken or two

4
back yard chickens
by on 08/24/2010 08:23am

I TOO LIVE IN A SMALL TOWN WITH THE "NO FARM ANIMALS" ORDINANCE. I LIVE IN THE HOUSE I WAS BORN IN IN 1941 AND MY PARENTS BEFORE ME AND I HAVE ALWAYS HAD CHICKENS. I INQUIRED AT CITY HALL AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS THAT THEY ONLY RESPONDED TO COMPLAINTS. HAVING NONE IN OVER 70 ODD YEARS THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BIRDS IN MY YARD ACCEPT FOR A BRIEF TIME WHEN A PACK OF DOS BROKE INTO THERE PEN AND KILLED THEM ALL. I CALLED THE POLICE, THEY DISPATCHED THE DOGS.
DURING THE ABSENCE OF A ROOSTER I DID HAVE A NEIGHBOR COMPLAIN THAT THEY HAD TO START SETTING AN ALARM CLOCK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS.

5
everyone should have hens
by on 08/24/2010 09:05am

Until earlier this year, I had chickens, and I loved having them. I didn't eat any of my chickens, but I did enjoy the eggs. Every day was a new surprise--how many eggs, what colors, what sizes? I could even recognize which eggs came from each hen in my small flock. But, while some cities are becoming more lenient and allowing a few hens per household, our small city is not. On the contrary--while cities around us have lifted their bans on city hens, our city strengthened theirs. Why? I'll tell you why I think so. Because we are home to Tyson and Georges, both large chicken and egg companies that pay farmers to produce these products for them. Sadly, people are finding it harder to have their little flocks now, although I can hear the occasional rooster crowing in the nearby neighborhood, so some are defying the city's ordinances. Good for them, I say. When I had my own fresh eggs, we had the fluffiest omelets and cakes, the best-tasting quiches and fried eggs ever. All of our friends bought our extras. Nothing went to waste. Meanwhile, I also enjoyed hanging out with my hens, each of whom had her own personality. (I won't go into guineas here, but suffice it to say that a year after I was forced to give them up, we still have NO ticks on about 2 of our 5 acres.) Hooray for hens, and power to those who have their own. Despite the so-called "risk" of disease, well-kept hens are NOT a threat. On the contrary, they provide disease-free food.

6
Good-egg
by on 08/24/2010 09:10am

Keep your chickens, wish we could have chickens, same here city ordinances. Sure miss fresh eggs.

7
Hard-Boiling Eggs...
by on 08/24/2010 09:45am

Dear Dr. Khuly-

I certainly agree with your Hard-boiling Eggs After the Recall?

However, I live in an apartment house in NY and your approach would lead to probable eviction.

"I have this thing about animal crowding."
When you shop for eggs on the shelves you see terms like free-range,
organic.
I used to buy these and begrudgingly pay the extra bucks.
I don't buy them anymore.

You would think that the Government would have rules to help the
consumer in making a decision...not so.

http://transformation-nc.com/blog/usda-free-range-chicken-eggs/

-Stan

8
Chickens
by on 08/24/2010 10:33am

We can't have farm animals here, like others said, but my cousin had them for years. It became too much work for her with her Nursing asst. job and she gave them to a neighbor. She put a huge hen in my arms upon visiting once-gee whiz. My grandfather had a small farm and raised his own breed of bantams so we always had fresh eggs when I grew up.

The altenative for many of us is to buy locally. There are farm markets all over and even in the cities now. Here, the county has a farm market on Sat. mornings with all the local farmers selling their wares.

I do agree with you that the over-crowded places that mass produce theggs for the supermarkets are not good. When I have to get eggs from them, I hard-boil them or fully cook them. No more once-over-lightly eggs for me. We have not be ill from any food here. (The veggies and greens do come from my garden so that issue is averted, too.)

9
chickens
by on 08/24/2010 11:09am

We have an ordinance too but we choose to ignore it. Obviously we had to get rid of our roosters (they get a really bad rap). We still have five beautiful hens and they have just started laying and it is so exciting. They are hysterical to watch especially when they are going after a moth. Unfortunately they discovered my tomatos but a small price to pay. I was looking around my back yard the other day and said "Honey have you seen any Japenese beetles this year?" Nope - not a one- how great is that?

10
Not in city limits
by on 08/24/2010 11:11am

Unfortunately, we can't keep chickens or any livestock-type animals in the city limits where I live. Also, I own a townhouse so that would not be allowed. What I ought to do, though, is see if the local farmers markets have any small farmers selling eggs - that might be great! I hadn't thought of buying "fresh" eggs before. And as for hard boiling eggs - I LOVE hard boiled eggs so I do that all the time anyway - I was surprised that so many people just threw out their eggs instead of just cooking them well.

Patricia

11
Hardboiling
by on 08/24/2010 11:13am

Sorry...should have explained...

All those recalled eggs can be rendered safe via cooking (i.e., hard boiling). Cooking an egg until it's solid will kill all that nasty salmonella.

12
love hens
by on 08/24/2010 11:16am

Hello, I also live with 3 hens, despite the ordinance, wich , actually perhaps need to be revised, if this new farm animals are kept clean, no odours, fliesetc, relly they need not a lot of room, and can be easily keep happy, two meals a day, fresh water, love vegetables, bread, and of course I give a balanced food with corn, calcium, vitamins....and also like teke free growing grass, is so nice wake up, feed them, go for a walk with my dog and pick up some grass to offer once we.re back....is a good beginning, and that eggs ......a luxury, I love them fried !!!
ki,ki,kisses from spain !!!

13
Chickens and Eggs
by on 08/24/2010 12:56pm

Dr. Patty...can you tell me how to go about building an egg producing operation? I know this is not your focus but...you brought it up!

14
Chickens
by on 08/24/2010 02:04pm

I checked our zoning recently, and our area is zoned to allow one hen! Whatever committee that came up with that restriction does not know anything about the social nature of chickens. It would be cruel to keep only one hen. I could not get away with keeping chickens, as I have one of those neighbors that spies of everyone. She seems to live to report her neighbors for any infraction - real or imagined.

15
Food Co-op
by on 08/24/2010 02:52pm

I get my eggs from my food co-op. I am part of a cow share program where I pay for a share of a cow and then I get to pay for the co-op to transport my raw milk to me from Amish farmers in Indiana to near my home in suburban Illinois. I can also get unhydrogenated lard, honey, pastured chickens, and eggs from pastured chickens. It doesn't guarantee that every microbe will never make me sick. But I think getting my food from healthy animals is better and safer.

I think sterile food may not make people sick, but such food won't make them well either. I think populating my body with healthy bacteria from living food is one way to ward off pathogenic bacteria.

I think I read somewhere that some research on eggs from the typical battery production were no different nutritionally than other eggs. Somehow I don't believe it. The vivid orange color of the yolks, the way the yolk sits up high. It is a beautiful thing to behold. And I think it holds promise of a nutrient dense food.

I also think chickens are more likely to be healthy when they live on small farms and are not crowded. I'm sure that is the thinking of the people who go to the farmers' markets and buy their eggs there.

Sure, we pay almost twice as much, but I think the safety factor and the humane raising is worth it.

16
by on 08/24/2010 03:25pm

Don't service my own car or cut my own hair or raise my own chickens. There are many people out there who can do a much better job of that than I can. We get our eggs from a youth initiative group in a local housing project that started with veggies and have branched out to chickens and bees. It's more than double the price of the supermarket, but as much as the farmers market eggs that come from 75 miles away (which I've also done). And you can see the chickens pecking away at the leftover veggies.

17
Getting started
by on 08/24/2010 03:47pm

The Backyard Chickens website and bulletin board is a wealth of information.

Also these books:

Living With Chickens by Jay Rossier
Storey's Guide to Raising Chickens by Gaile Damerow

18
In the New York Times...
by on 08/24/2010 04:56pm

There's an interesting article in today's NYT on the increased scrutiny over egg production in the wake of this recall and how it's headed into welfare territory. Turns out the egg industry is being criticized yet again for how it houses its widgets––this time because there may be a connection between how the chickens are housed and how salmonella is spread.

Of course, this we already knew. But it doesn't keep industry players from keeping up their denialist banter.

Check it out:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/24/us/24eggs.html

19
by on 08/24/2010 05:14pm

I recall a debate on here a couple years ago about factory farms. I think some wiseacre guest blogger supported it.

I live in Iowa, but get eggs from a local family farmer. $3 a dozen. I feed them raw to the dogs and though dogs seem to withstand salmonella better than humans, am still glad to not worry about this recall.

20
No Chickens :(
by on 08/24/2010 05:24pm

We've been traveling around the USA for the past thirteen years - staying anywhere from 3 months to 5 years in one place. Needless to say we're apartment dwellers right now! We figure we'll get tired of this lifestyle in a few years :) So no chickens for us!

21
Chickens!
by on 08/24/2010 06:37pm

No livestock allowed here. Will have to check out the local options for obtaining eggs. So pathetic that a trip to the grocery store can have nasty consequences.

22
Poultry Envy
by on 08/24/2010 09:36pm

You have convinced me..I now have serious poultry envy. Somehow I think our homeowners association, while not directly addressing chickens in the by-laws, might object. I am, however, very happy to report that our daughter has joined the backyard chicken brigade in the Seattle area and has truly loved the experience!
Pati Moore
http://www.soft-hearted.com

23
What about parasites?
by on 08/26/2010 07:48am

Hi Dr. Kuhly,
Coincidentally, I also blogged about chickens and eggs. Not that I want to rain on anyone's parade, but I am a cautious person. Read here about my concerns: http://bit.ly/9HOz9H
I think a respectful debate on the pros and cons of different ways to produce food is healthy :-).
Warm regards,
Anna

24
apologies
by on 08/26/2010 07:52am

I hate it when I hit the send button before I proof my writings- I meant to spell Khuly correctly so here's my public apology and the correct spelling!
Anna

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Patty Khuly, VMD, MBA

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Dr. Khuly is a former petMD blogger and small animal veterinarian in Miami, Florida, where she practices medicine at Sunset Animal Clinic and serves on the board of the South Florida Veterinary Medical Association. She is a graduate of Wellesley College, the University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine, and The Wharton School of Business.

As a significant sideline, she writes...a lot. She authors pet health columns for USA Today, The Miami Herald and Vetstreet. She also writes a popular monthly column for Veterinary Practice News and serves as regular contributor to Veterinary Economics, The Bark, and the Veterinary News Network.

Dr. Khuly lives in South Miami with her brood of hens, goats, dogs, cats...and humans.

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