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Why Tubal Ligations and Vasectomies for Pets Can Be Like Pulling Teeth (And What YOU Can Do About It)

April 19, 2010 / (25) comments


Of all the e-mails and phone calls Fully Vetted brings my way, the single most commonly queried issue has to do with how to source a tubal ligation or vasectomy. Apparently, it’s near-impossible to find veterinarians willing to take on these simple procedures.


Which is endlessly frustrating to those among you who have read this blog’s posts on tubal ligation and vasectomies for canine sterilization and decided this approach might just be best for your pet. Some of you have even gone so far as to track me down at my workplace, asking why the heck I seem to be the only veterinarian in tarnation willing to consider this easier alternative to spays and neuters.


In a past post (one my Dolittler readers might remember), I handled the question this way:


Veterinary medicine is increasingly becoming aware that spay and neuter is not one-size-fits-all — not for our dogs, anyway. Though the spay and neuter mantra still holds extra-firm among most veterinarians, the truth is that the jury is out on whether it’s best for males to retain their testicles and females their ovaries ... and for how long.


Indeed, a recent study convincingly correlated longevity with ovary retention in female dogs. Other studies have effectively questioned whether orthopedic health and a cancer-free status might not be challenged by our traditionally early spays and neuters.


Sure, sometimes it’s best to remove gonads entirely, as when hormone-related diseases or cancers make themselves known (think mammary tumors, testicular cancers, or prostatic disease). Or when significant behavior issues indicate that a better quality of life or greater human safety might be achieved through complete sterilization (most notably in cases of aggression). But the biggest reason we veterinarians advocate reproductive organ removal for dogs is the obvious: pet overpopulation.


For cats? Don’t get me started. I don’t yet see a way out of complete gonadectomies for felines. They’re just not behaviorally amenable to in-home living when their ovaries and testicles hold such aggressive sway over their behavior. Moreover, longevity in cats IS correlated with the kind of indoor living we can offer them once they’ve parted company with their parts.


But our much-milder dogs offer a totally different opportunity. From a public policy standpoint, vasectomization and tubal ligation offer the advantage of a less invasive, more rapid brand of sterilization. (Read: less expensive = more dogs sterilized = less overpopulation). And an owner can always choose to completely castrate or spay later. No harm, no foul.


But if you ask veterinarians across the country, the concept of a tubal ligation or vasectomy reeks of the unethical. That’s what I’ve been told by some colleagues, anyway. "Why do something only halfway?" Moreover, they assume the desire for these procedures comes down to mere human conceit (i.e., “I want my dog to keep his balls and I think it’s natural for him to continue to have sex.”).


To be sure, there are some of these sentiments represented among the e-mailers asking about vasectomies. But increasingly, my callers and e-mailers aren’t the kooks my fellow colleagues might assume they’d be. In fact, most of them are perfectly normal, highly educated pet people who have taken the time to research the issue and wondered why the heck they were getting so much opposition from their vet. They’re just trying to do the responsible thing, right?


Last week I had another one of these e-mailers contact me with a very specific question: "Where in Northern California can I have my dogs vasectomized?" This determined dog owner had called up and down the coast and claims the best offer she got was for a $6,000 procedure at UC Davis’s vet school. (And I happen to believe her, based on similarly frustrated owners I’ve heard from in and around the Bay Area.)


That’s when I got on the phone and called one of the veterinarians Gina Spadafori over at PetConnection recommended when my sister had moved out that way last year. Dr. Kathleen Danielson had immediately agreed, adding only the traditional caveat: “Vasectomies are great but they always carry a risk of failure.” In other words, sometimes those bullheaded sperm manage to find a way.


Still, she was game. So now, as of next week, two soft-coated wheatons from California will be added to the growing ranks of those who have opted for a different kind of snip-snip. And we've identified one more veterinarian who's happy to be of service in this regard. Do I hear a round of applause for The Country Vet in Marin County, California?


OK, so that was my long-winded explanation, to which I’ll add this obvious point:


Veterinarians don’t do vasectomies and tubal ligations because we weren’t taught to do them in school. Veterinarians at the forefront of change in veterinary medicine tend to be those in vet school settings. They influence all of us through the papers they write, and the students they teach. But they have no incentive to teach these procedures or ponder their significance. Even shelter medicine programs haven’t yet eyed this possibility. Adding another method to the mix is just too complicated…


…especially when that method is an unverifiable one. I mean, how would you know whether a dog has been vasectomized or had her “tubes tied”? It’s argued that these procedures might leave a telltale scar, but that’s no proof. The proof for males is in the absence of testicles, and for females, the absence of a heat cycle. Yet I’d rebut that there’s scant verifiability there, either. If it’s legal proof we’re concerned with, a veterinarian’s say-so should be enough, right?


Now that I’ve had my say (and will again in an upcoming article addressed to veterinarians in Veterinary Practice News), here’s where you come in: I’d like to know where in this country veterinarians are willing to perform vasectomies and tubal ligations. To that end, I want you to ask your veterinarian if, theoretically speaking, he or she would perform one?


If the answer is yes, plenty of us here want to know. Call your vet today and ask, but don’t ask the receptionist. S/he might just look up the list of surgical procedures on the computer and give you a no based on the absence of a code. So ask your vet directly, instead. If they say yes, add his/her name and hospital to the comments below. Inquiring minds … we want to know.

 

 

Dr. Patty Khuly

 

 

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COMMENTS (25)
1
A different snip
by on 04/19/2010 03:25am

It was suggested by a canine orthopedist in Fremont, Ca that we have our (at the time) year-old Dobie given a vasectomy, instead of an out-right neuter, because of our intention to do agility, tracking, etc. with him. We wanted him to grow up and have his bones and muscles as fully developed as possible in order to prevent injury and cut down on the risk of bone cancer. We had a difficult time getting a vet to even consider doing it, but as our dog also had one crypt-orchid, we wanted to be sure that he wouldn't be totally neutered while we were having it removed. We finally found Dr. Heidi Tijsseling in the Sacramento area, who told us that though she had never done one, she'd research it and get back to us. She agreed to do it and now our Dobie boy is 3, all grown up, 87 lbs of muscle, bone, speed and agility.

2
Client need smart options
by on 04/19/2010 07:42am

We are in a unique practice - one where we work with breeder clients regularly - and love it. Our clients regularly expect us to push the envelope. We freeze semen and use frozen semen every day.

You are right -the Respect the Ovaries article on longevity and the NAIA early spay and neuter articles - http://www.gpmcf.org/respectovaries.html and http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf
are but the 2 newest articles that educate us that leaving gonads is not a bad thing. They don't remove them in Europe with the same enthusiasm we do.

In part, it is education - but when our clients are more educated on what they want than we are, it is time for us to at least have an intelligent rebuttal, if not comply with their request.

In part, it is politically correct - the humane societies, HSUS and the veterinary schools have taught us to control the pet population. And that our only option is by spaying and neutering. Not by responsible pet ownership! In some communities, like our local Milwaukee, they no longer have enough pets to meet the needs of adoptions so regularly import pets from outside the state to fill the shelter. This is a wonderful thing, but no one tells anyone how great a job the community has done in controlling pet overpopulation. Soon, this will happen in other communities. But if your pet does not have an identifying mark to show they have had a tubal ligation or vasectomy, (they cut the left ear tip off of cats to show the shelter vet has done a spay), how will your pet be identified when you get a license, go to a dog event or by error ends up at the shelter?

WE have done these procedures and will continue to offer them. They are not frequently requested but we were issued hormones for a reason and they serve a purpose in our bodies and our pets bodies. Hormones influence the development of the bones, muscles, and reproductive tract. Cancer in found in some pets in higher frequency if they are spayed or neutered - it is not an across-the-board way to protect your pet from cancer. The only cancer reduced by spaying is mammary tumors. Neutering only protects the aging male from testicular cancer, not prostate cancer, bone cancer or hemangiosarcoma. Removing them too soon or at all lead to unintended consequences. We are fans of offering our clients what they want if medically, legally and ethically appropriate with the education it takes to make good decisions.

However, you can't leave the uterus and take the ovaries as this leads to serious uterine pathology. So please don't take ovaries and leave the uterus behind. And even after tubal or vasectomies, your pet later may need to lose the remainder of their reproductive tract - if there is prostate disease or uterine disease. Remember, more males get prostate cancer if they are neutered than if they are not - surprising huh?

We often are asked to treat pets with pyometras and prostate disease without neutering or spaying. And we are very successful in doing this in most cases. But here is the question that is not asked in the blog today - why don't more vets also offer this service? Because as she stated, we are taught in veterinary school to take out ovaries and testicles, not to spare them. If a dog presents with a liver problem I don't remove the liver - we treat it. but if they arrive with a problem with the testicle, why is one treatment all the client is educated about?

In Wisconsin, our veterinarians are to educate our clients about "all viable medical options". I don't know how other states word that, but they are often similar. All means ALL. This means you should be told that you have options - and then given guidance as to the best option for you and your pet.

So fellow veterinarians, time to be sure you know your clients are educated and offer them options, including the option to leave hormones to do their job. Educate yourself and them and discuss this important topic.

3
South Florida
by on 04/19/2010 09:28am

It is my understanding that Dr. Darko at the Animal Wellness Clinic in Tamarac (Broward County, Florida) performs ligations and vasectomies. 954 772 2100 www.tamaracvet.com

4
Great start
by on 04/19/2010 10:20am

Three so far! And a thorough comment, Marty. But what's the name of your hospital?

5
Question?
by on 04/19/2010 10:41am

How are you going to get your recently "snipped" male dog to sit in a chair and hold an icepack on his crotch for two days?

Made you chuckle, didn't I....

Happy Monday!!

by on 12/06/2011 07:33pm

Ha ha. The same way you'd hold an ice-pack to your dog after you've had his testicles removed.

6
by on 04/19/2010 11:12am

Dr. Khuly: While I see your point of advocating vasectomies and tubal ligations for dogs, I think you must consider several other factors.
Complete sterlization is also warranted in dogs that have been tested and found to have genetic defects inherent in their breed. My Boston Terrier recently had BAER,OFA (Patella) and CERF tests done. He passed CERF and OFA Patella with flying colors. Unfortunately, we discovered that he is unilaterally deaf. His left ear is affected. When you look at him, he does not appear to have excessive white, which is the the color (actually lack of pigment) linked gene that also can determine deafness.
By all appearances, he's handsome and well within the breed standard. Here's the issue: If I chose to breed him, he would not improve the breed, in addition to possibly passing on deafness in one or both ears to his offspring. I chose to have him neutered because I do not want the possibility of him producing a litter under any circumstances. He's a pet, and I understand that being a responsible pet owner means sterilizing him.
The other issue arises of people who think that their dog will improve a breed when it in fact, will not. I see it particularly often in my adopted breed, the Boston Terrier. While I am not an expert in conformation or genetics, I see AKC registered Bostons in the show ring that are, by definition of the breed standard, mismarked. These examples of the breed will go on to produce offspring and insure the futurity of the breed should they obtain their championship. That is the irony of breeding and dog breeders - everybody thinks that have the dog that has it all. Breeders do see flaws, but often they see fewer faults than they see beauty. A lot of this is about perception and the pride of showing an owner-bred dog. It also about a judge's personal preference and human error. Some years judges like the leggy Bostons and other years they like the short, compact Boston. All in all, breeding is a crap shoot and only those who produce superb specimens should consider vasectomies and tubal ligation rather than full spay and neuter procedures. But then again, a breeder's idea of perfection varies from dog to dog. There is no easy answer, although I do think that full sterilization should be the main option for dog owners. The average dog owner is not looking to produce show animals, so spay and neuter should remain the primary procedure for preventing unwanted litters. (I hope this made sense, I am writing in a rush today.)

by Christine Allison on 03/05/2012 03:27pm

I don't see how tube tying or vasectomies are any less sterilization than a full spay or neuter? You're assuming that the reason why people want to get these procedures is because they want to breed their dogs... Which is not true. These are sterilization surgeries intended to prevent dogs from breeding, just like spaying and neutering. The reasons for leaving the ovaries and the testes are 1: they want to leave their dogs hormones the same as an unaltered dog due to health benefits or if they are working dogs (competing in sports or working in the field where hormones play an important part in the dogs abilities) or 2: cosmetics, although I personally think this is a silly reason. The dogs you see in the show ring are not sterilized at all. They do not have their tubes tied or a vasectomy because they WILL be used for breeding. The way the surgery works is 1: with females, the Fallopian tubes are tied to prevent an egg and sperm to pass through and meet, thus preventing fertilization, 2: in males, the tube that delivers sperm from the testicles is cut, preventing sperm from being ejaculated and thus preventing fertilization as well.

While some people might benefit from a full spay and neuter, such as cancer risks or behavior issues, others do not. So please do not think that the reason people want these procedures is to be able to still breed their dogs, because that just doesn't make any sense. If I was going to breed a dog I definitely wouldn't take that dog to get a sterilization surgery, since as I'm sure you can imagine that would be counterproductive. :P

7
by on 04/19/2010 12:19pm

Dr. K is right, this is mostly a dog issue - I really can't see living with an un-neutered cat (the yowling! the pungent urine! the tomcats showing up and peeing on my doorstep!) Plus with ferals, the ruckus un-neutered cats make as they court and mate goes a LONG way to contribute to the notion of feral cats as vermin. Cat overpopulation is also much worse than with dogs, and cats don't compete in agility and other sports. So, for better or worse, neutering/spaying is The Way of Cats.

I have heard that there is research going on into chemical methods to sterilize feral cats as it might be easier and cheaper than trapping and neutering colonies.

8
Clarification
by on 04/19/2010 12:21pm

getyourleash: With vasectomies and tubal ligations the sterilization rate is close to 100%. These pets can mate but the sperm can't reach the egg. The key is to perform the surgery by removing more tissue than in a human (because we worry that a human might change his/her mind on the procreation thing, this makes sense). This way the chances of "accidental reversal" are closer to nil.

9
Client need smart options
by on 04/19/2010 08:51pm

Hi again - sorry, I am at Veterinary Village and International Canine Semen Bank Wisconsin in Lomira. Our website is www.veterinaryvillage.com.

10
by on 04/19/2010 09:47pm

Dr. Patty, I read with interest your disdain for the use of first
names in our profession. I would guess you were raised above the Mason-Dixon Line, have no children, hug with a lot of space between you and the person you are hugging and generally take yourself a little too seriously. People like to go where everybody knows your name. I am glad clients choose to call me friend. I know their kids, they know mine. I also remember putting their pet to sleep and I remember which exam room we used and always use a different one. Whether they schmooze me or not I don't know. I do know I love that they at least know one of my names. Enjoy the ride and step of the pedestal and join the rest of us. One last thing I would guess about you----Happy with all the hope and change that you were hoping for last Nov.

11
by on 04/19/2010 10:55pm

@ISa08- Uh, what's your problem? Your post is a little off topic. If I were to guess I would say you graduated some time ago, charge $50 to spay a cat and treat every sick animal with a shot of dex and penG. See? It isn't nice to make assumptions is it?

Dr. Khuly- regarding the pricing of vasectomies and tubals- I disagree that they would be less expensive. The anaesthesia would be the same- unless you are thinking about doing them with local (but I don't think most dogs would sit still). And knowing how fast an experienced surgeon can spay/neuter, I really can't see the procedure taking any less time. Not to mention that most clinics discount sterilization procedures anyway. I would think that vasectomies and tubals would cost as much or more (if billed out as a "real" surgery).

At my clinic (I'm in Canada) I'm sure our doctors could be persuaded to vasectomize/tubal ligate a dog for the right owner. In fact one feline patient was left with her ovaries at her owners request. (She still has the heat cycles and mood swings to prove it!)

@Dr. Greer- What uterine pathology are you refering to? I thought that once the ovaries were out of the picture pyometras were unlikely?

12
tubal ligation
by on 04/19/2010 11:13pm

Dr. Khuly,

Thank you for spreading the well informed word yet again! Thank you Zanna, Marty and Regina for your positive comments!

I am in search of a veterinarian qualified to do a tubal ligation for my agility dog. I have not found one.

Last year I got my ninth dog, she is my first rescue dog. I thought that giving a rescue dog a home would be the right thing to do and having life long dog experience, I felt that I could handle any "issues" she might have from her past situation and shelter stay...

Well, what happened is that after looking at hundreds of dogs, a little 35 lb. Boxer pup, half bald and mange ridden bag of bones with a goofy piebald face stole my heart. I took her home and began her house and obedience training. She began racing around my loft at warp speed negotiating furniture and fixtures with amazing finesse. Then she took a flying leap on to my desktop, all fours off the floor to the desktop in one leap like a cat. She decided that going through my mail and stealing my pens was good. I decided that it was not and removed her from the desks and tables a hundred times before realizing, if she can do this then she could do dog sports. I researched dog sports and off to agility school we went. She has since grown into a beautiful, muscular athlete and has completed the level 3 agility class and will be old enough to compete soon.

When researching dog sports, I saw an article about not spaying or neutering athletes and working dogs and why. This lead me to the studies and numerous opinions by veterinarians as to why S/N was not right for all dogs. I felt that purposely predisposing her to even one injury or illness by spaying her would be a serious mistake. The rescue group had said they were going to spay her after her mange cleared.

After researching the S/N studies I told the rescue volunteer about her ability as an agility dog and I told her about the "side effects" of spaying and that I was concerned about her health. I told them that I was not going to breed her or allow her to become pregnant. I do not wish to contribute to pet overpopulation. I've never bred any dog and certainly would not breed this dog, as cute and sweet as she is she is no show dog, being over one third white with several cosmetic facial faults and an unknown pedigree. I also told the volunteer that I found out that the City of Los Angeles permits agility dogs and working dogs to be intact. I got her an intact license.

The rescue group operator and her second in command would hear none of it and had ranting, raving, yelling fits on the phone. They demanded that I give them the dog. Then five women with three police officers in tow showed up at my home unannounced and asked the building manager to let them in. The rescue group has filed a lawsuit against me claiming in excess of $25,000.00 in damages.

The California state law requires "shelter/rescue" dogs to be spayed/neutered unless a state licensed veterinarian certifies they are to sick or injured or if it would be otherwise detrimental to their health...

I haven't found a vet willing to discuss this let alone anyone to do a tubal ligation. Four out of five veterinary receptionists I spoke with and several vets did not even know what tubal ligation was. I will be back on the phone tomorrow.

13
by on 04/21/2010 12:41am

What are the results of simply removing the uterus while leaving the ovaries intact? Are there any negative risks associated with that? I'm assuming that in dogs, they'd still go into heat but wouldn't bleed or have the potential for pyometra. Could that be another sterilization option?

14
hysterectomy
by on 04/21/2010 01:47am

Pai, Ive had two these done with good results. The heats were about the same intensity but alot less mess. Still a little red but not like before. No worry of an accident and no pyometra which is probably one the greatest risks for an unaltered female. The one in fact had one and the vet did a hysto. at my request instead of a OVH. However ALL the uterus must be removed to prevent a stump or pocket pyo. Dog remained active, healthy and no hint of extra weight. I would also be interested to know if theres any down side to these other than "shes still intact....sort of " .

15
To lSa08
by on 04/21/2010 08:46am

Yeah, OT but I'm here for you to respectfully disagree with. Lots of my colleagues disagree with me on many issues and I don't mind if you use this as a forum every once in a while (colleagues get a special pass).

As to the issue of my column on first names, I think you missed the line where I clearly stated that I only object to veterinarians who come by the first-name basis unnaturally. As in, when we elect to use it by way of marketing ourselves as more gentle and accessible. In those cases I feel it's artificial and disingenuous and risks diminishing our professional standing.

What can I say? It's a pet peeve. I don't take that (or myself) too seriously, I don't think. But you're free to disagree. I'd especially like you to send in a letter to VPN's editor that, word for word, references your above comment. Then sign your name to it. Bet you're not wiling to do that, though.

Here's the column ISa08 refers to, in case anyone else is interested:
http://www.veterinarypracticenews.com/vet-practice-news-columns/reality-check/dr-patty-uh-no-but-dr-k-is-ok.aspx

And , OK, I can't resist: I'm a registered independent. I've found much to agree and disagree with in Mr. Obama's administration. But that's part of being an American, isn't it? None of us gets everything we hope for. Not in columns or elsewhere. Nonetheless, improving the tone and tenor of civil discourse is something I can still hold out some hope for.

16
by on 05/18/2010 11:11pm

In female dogs does tubal ligation protect against mammary tumors? My dog (a rescue) wasn't spayed until age 9 and as a result has had numerous malignant mammary tumors. I'm curious about a possible correlation between tumors and tubal ligation.

17
Nope...
by on 05/19/2010 10:41am

...tubal ligations will not protect against mammary tumors the way an early spay will. It's one of the reasons most veterinarians are still reluctant. Though cruciate ligament issues, osteosarcoma and longevity are emerging as possible reasons to keep a pet intact for a time, this may well depend on breed while we KNOW that we can prevent mammary tumors by removing ovaries.

18
tubal ligation for cats
by on 07/24/2010 05:18pm

I was lucky enough to find a vet who agreed to perform tubal ligation in MA in 2000. It was through a personal connection. Our new cat had 7 kittens - we found nice homes for them, but I can not find a vet agreeing to perform tubal ligation or at least hysterectomy without ovariectomy. Her risk of breast cancer is much lower - she breast-fed 7 kittens for 2 months. Everyone just says "We do not perform them". I have a purebred British Blue. This breed is prone to diabetes - I do not want her to grow fat and develop diabetes. I said, I can sign a paper indicating that I understand all the risk associated with not castrating my cat - still no... Why? Technically it is much easier, and I agree to pay the same or even more for this type of surgery... I think they just do not know how to do it.

by on 12/22/2010 05:28pm

I'm looking for a Vet who does tubal ligation in MA. Can you give me a referral?

19
Has anyone found a vet?
by on 09/09/2010 10:41am

I have yet to find a vet in New Mexico that will perform the procedure. I have a male labrador pup, and I feel that this is our best option, because I dont want his drive to go down in any way shape or form. Anyways, if anyone knows of a vet that will do this, in the Albuquerque area, or in New Mexico period, I would really appreciate it.

20
NM Vet for tubal ligation
by on 10/15/2010 11:32am

Yes. We are one of the fortunate states. Los Lunas Animal Clinic.

http://www.loslunasanimalclinic.com/reproductiveservices.html

"Fully-equipped surgery suite:
-ALL REPRODUCTIVE SURGERIES CONSIDERED-"

Yes, the receptionist is clueless, but get to the vet.

21
CT vet for tubal ligation
by on 02/23/2011 11:58pm

Hi,
We have 2 puppies: a nine month old Akita Male who is agility training, and a 7 month old female Akita who will be agility training.
We want to prevent pregnancy and make a more permanent solution when the dogs are mature. Any Connecticut or NYC vets that do vasectomies and tubal ligations?
It is approaching Spring and need a solution asap.

22
Vet in Iowa
by on 10/23/2011 06:34pm

My vet in Webster City Iowa was willing to learn how to do vasectomies at my request, and my two dogs were her first ones (ie guinea pigs). The first one was tricky because of the learning curve and a few complications but my second dog was done in 10 minutes and he was leaping around the yard chasing the cat as it climbed over the fence a mere 6 hours later. Her name is Dr. Michelle Brim and her number is 515-832-1341.

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Dr. Khuly is a former petMD blogger and small animal veterinarian in Miami, Florida, where she practices medicine at Sunset Animal Clinic and serves on the board of the South Florida Veterinary Medical Association. She is a graduate of Wellesley College, the University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine, and The Wharton School of Business.

As a significant sideline, she writes...a lot. She authors pet health columns for USA Today, The Miami Herald and Vetstreet. She also writes a popular monthly column for Veterinary Practice News and serves as regular contributor to Veterinary Economics, The Bark, and the Veterinary News Network.

Dr. Khuly lives in South Miami with her brood of hens, goats, dogs, cats...and humans.

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