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Tasers and vet medicine'”no, really

September 26, 2007 / (13) comments


Still making the rounds in email inboxes everywhere is a link to the University of Florida student who was “tased” while protesting vociferously at a political event. But if you think this electrical charge-imparting weapon is reserved only for the would-be violent humans among us, you’re dead wrong.

Yesterday’s Miami Herald ran a short piece on a Miami cop’s use of a Taser stun gun on a bulldog. Yep—you read that right—an English bulldog, as a matter of fact.

A police officer in Miami was attracted to the scene of a possible crime by what he interpreted as “screaming.” Upon investigation he discovered a pack of dogs in the outdoor enclosure of an auto shop. When he first came upon the scene, he thought a pack of dogs was attacking an intruding human. Instead, the subject of the three-on-one dog violence turned out to be an English bulldog.

The cop came close enough to douse the quartet with pepper spray, thus dispersing two of the attackers. The third offender was one English bulldog named Butch. And, true to his breed, he was undeterred by something so trivial as a dose of aerosolized cayenne.

Still “mauling” his victim, Butch then received a jolt of Taser power, enough to give him a good limp after the fact, according to his owner. Apparently, it was also enough to get him off Mariah, his also-bulldog quarry, who escaped to the vet’s with puncture wounds and is reported to be recovering well.

Anytime a Taser gets activated, special note is taken of the event for police purposes, which explains the media leak that led to this strange news report. It’s the kind of story that finds you staring at the page or computer screen, mouth agape, wondering exactly how this scene must have gone down.

In my case, it also left me contemplating what poor Mariah must have gone through. First the attack, then the caustic spray and finally, the tase. Because there’s no way she didn’t get a significant dose of both the remedies—unless the officer was capable of separating the dogs during the fight (an unlikely occurrence, as anyone who’s been unlucky to witness an all-out canine brawl knows).

Because I read the report in an online format, I was privy to the comments solicited by the site. Most were rather juvenile rejoinders along the lines of, “Don’t ‘tase’ me bro.” Who knew the Herald’s readership could be so sensitive?

It was registering this public reaction that imparted its own jolt: How stupid is America that this kind of story can run as a human-interest piece so that sick @#$%s can get their jollies? Next thing you know, Tasers will be used by cops and yahoos alike (yes, I charitably distinguish between the two) whenever animals are acting out (as they will) or whenever Joe six-pack think it might be fun to watch Fido get what he deserves after defecating on the rug.

Maybe I’m overreacting, but let me be clear: this is not a weapon that’s been tested on fifty-pound animals in a controlled setting. Its safety has not yet been established on dogs. That obvious fact alone should make us think twice when we read about a well-meaning officer tasing anyone under 100 pounds.

Granted, I’m grateful to see that a Miami cop cares enough about dogs to want to break up a violent fight, but the reactions to this news report gives me enough pause to wonder whether more dogs might have been better served by letting Mariah get another dose of pepper spray before this cop reached for his Taser. I’m just saying…

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COMMENTS (13)
1
by on 09/30/2007 03:10pm

Thank you! The feeling is quite mutual. Your site is one of the few I read regularly. :-)

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by on 09/28/2007 09:28am

Marie: I love your site: "I do not whisper. I translate."
I hope you do get a chance to educate more cops on this. I know that a great many cops love dogs and are always trying to do their best by them. Anything you can contribute is appreciated by all of us.

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by on 09/27/2007 10:35pm

Cops are pretty busy learning how to break up human fights without getting themselves, or those people, seriously hurt in the process. Learning to break up dog fights is pretty low on their list of priorities. Statisticly I'd say not enough of them are in that situation routinely to justify (to their higher powers) the cost of adding that type of training to their education.

But you have given me an idea for a presentation for our own local cops.

4
by on 09/27/2007 10:01pm

Police should learn how to break up a dog fight in a more humane way. tasers are potentially lethal, on dogs or humans.

5
by on 09/27/2007 05:18pm

I admit up front that I am married to a cop so my view may be biased.

Cops do NOT get special training in dog handling. At least none of the ones I know aside from k-9 handlers. I know some departments are starting "learning to read dog" programs but they are not mandatory. So the cops are making dog call decisions all on their own. (those classes stemmed from the family pit that got shot by an officer from a traffic stop years ago. The pit was friendly but the cop was scared of the approach. Scared cop = dead dog. I wonder what would have happened if he had a tazer?)

A tazer, while not ideal, is less lethal than a bullet. At least assumed for that cop and that situation. We know what a bullet does. At least untested, a tazer might not harm the dog permanently. A second dose of pepper spray sounds great but it will only work if there is a second dose in the canister. (they do run out) It also can only be used safely if the officer can dispense it without affecting himself. (it is nasty stuff, trust me) Perhaps the wind or angle was not in his favor.

From what I have heard, the deaths attributed to people (according to the studies that do exist - I'll try to get a link to share) from tazers have occured due to illegal drugs being in the system or health issues stemming from obesity of the person tazed. But I am not an expert.

Do I think dogs should be tazed? Heck no. But the cop had to make a quick decision. Some cops might have done nothing or choses a less survivable option for the attacking dog.

Ad yes there are bad cops making bad decisions out there. The good cops don't like them either. NO job is safe from idiots in the field.

I wish online news articles didn't have a comment option. It just brings out the morons with nothing better to do than sit online all day. The few times I read news online I have to ignore the comments, it infuriates me to much.

Just my 2 cents.

6
by on 09/27/2007 04:06pm

There is a good article on how to break up a dog fight without getting hurt at http://www.leerburg.com/dogfight.htm
I do NOT agree with all of the author's views on dog training... but this method of breaking up a dog fight works, and minimizes risk of injury to both the humans and the dogs.
The article starts a short way down the page - just under a photo of a person's forearm with a small bite wound.

7
by on 09/27/2007 01:40pm

It would be interesting to get the findings of the "many" animal studies referred to in this article. Very timely with this blog post. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg195262...

8
by on 09/26/2007 05:16pm

Isn't a hose with cold water the traditional way to break up a dog fight? Or am I misremembering that? I know a police chief and makes every single one of his officers take a course and be tasered themselves before being allowed to carry a taser.

From what I understand - as we just talked about this Sunday - it is unlikely Mariah felt anything since the jolt is delivered by two little prongs that form the current. People can hold onto someon - skin on skin - and not feel anything from the person being tasered.

Now, the reality is that the majority of police chiefs are not as cautious in either their hiring practices or training regimens, thus you have other problems.

Pax,

MLO

9
by on 09/26/2007 04:09pm

Like the previous poster said, tasers should only be used as a non-lethal (or at least less-lethal) alternative to deadly force i.e. shooting.
Certainly, it's much much better that the cop tased the dog RATHER than shooting it... and although I can think of several other alternatives for breaking up a dog fight (and so can most of you too) it's very possible that the cop was not that experienced with dogs, and didn't know anything else to do. Pet dogs get shot by police officers all the time - at least this story didn't turn out that way.

10
by on 09/26/2007 12:38pm

Tasers have killed people - so using them on an animal weighing less than a human is a really bad idea.

There was a piece on TV the other night showing a woman who was repeatedly Tased by a cop even when she was complying with his instructions. I'm really suprised she didn't end up with a heart attack or stroke. I hope she sues the sh-t out of the police department.

Tasers are dangerous - cops need to be trained to only use them when its a choice of either Tase or shoot. Too many cops are using them for situations that can be handled with a little diplomatic skill and some patience.

11
by on 09/26/2007 12:00pm

Cyndi: I once had a heat stroke case in a bulldog secondary to pepper spray. The bully wasn't even attacking anyone--he just happened to waddle along when the dog-phobic mailman was making his way up the steps to the porch. This bully's skin was bright pink all over his head neck face and chest. His eyes were beyond puffy. Sour cream and IV fluids did the trick but the moral of the tory is that bulldogs and pepper spray do not mix. (And btw, the USPS paid the bill.)

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by on 09/26/2007 10:12am

I'm still trying roll this whole this whole thing around in my head. Let say this -one of guys -perhaps my friend with a English Bulldog Rescue down in Miami did this. Just even the pepper spray stuff. Never mind the Tazer.
She's be hauled off for animal cruelty don't you think?

cyndi

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by on 09/26/2007 10:05am

I agree, it may have been better to try the pepper spray again. I have a great dane that weights 175 lbs and would not want him tased no matter what he was doing. Not that he does anything but attack me and lay on the sofa!

I used to know a cop that carried a bag of dog treats in his patrol car. He used the treats for any stray animals he saw & then reported to animal control. He also told me that once he had to use them to distract 2 dogs that were attacking a 3rd dog. The treats distracted those 2 dogs just enough to get them away and get pepper sprayed slightly away from the poor doggie victim. Once pepper sprayed they ran and he was able to get the 3rd dog to a local Vet.

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